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Imgur is Covertly Redirecting Image Links on Facebook and Twitter

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Re: Imgur is Covertly Redirecting Image Links on Facebook and Twitter

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Any reason Reddit isn't exploring peer-to-peer image caching? Given how much time folks stay on Reddit and the disproportionate amount of traffic going to front page posts, when an image gets to the top, there should be tons of user connections open to allow for peer-based caching.

Re: Imgur is Covertly Redirecting Image Links on Facebook and Twitter

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I've actually wondered this for years - why reddit let imgur take that lead and run with it, but to some of the other replies I guess it does come down to cost. Reddit doesn't have a big budget and until last year I think it was just 3 or 4 of them (now I still think it is For what little (nothing?) it is worth, it upsets me that this pattern is repeated over and over and over... for once I'd like to see a startup gr…

Craigslist?

I thought of that, and to some degree, yes.

But they are always shooting down anyone who dares to use their data and present it in a more useful manner.

In particular they're totally screwing up some areas and ignoring complaints.

The Denver/Boulder area of Colorado has multiple overlapping sites that cover an area smaller than that of the Bay Area, which has one all-encompassing site. The result is that it's really hard to figure out where to look for listings -- or where to post listings.

What we need is combined area site like the Bay Area has, that lets you restrict to certain sub-regions for some searches (apartments, say) and broader regions for others (antiques?).

Re: Imgur is Covertly Redirecting Image Links on Facebook and Twitter

#63

I tried linking to a photo I'm hosting in a Pro account: https://twitter.com/mahemoff/status/431487389866139648 Even for a Pro account, the image redirects from Twitter. It doesn't redirect me, but it redirects everyone else (I tested from Incognito mode). Which seems not quite what I thought I was paying for. Also as a paid user, if I click on anyone else's images, they still redirect like they would for a guest/fre…

What did you think you were paying for? I mean, it mentions the perks here:

https://imgur.com/register/upgrade

What else do you think you get with Imgur pro that isn't listed?

Re: Imgur is Covertly Redirecting Image Links on Facebook and Twitter

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I tried linking to a photo I'm hosting in a Pro account: https://twitter.com/mahemoff/status/431487389866139648 Even for a Pro account, the image redirects from Twitter. It doesn't redirect me, but it redirects everyone else (I tested from Incognito mode). Which seems not quite what I thought I was paying for. Also as a paid user, if I click on anyone else's images, they still redirect like they would for a guest/fre…

I'm getting no redirect. Firefox Beta with adblock Not logged in to imgur

In my testing, NoScript blocks the redirect.

Re: Imgur is Covertly Redirecting Image Links on Facebook and Twitter

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@judk's comment should be higher... it is the unfortunate cycle of ad-supported startups. imgur grew out of the garden that is reddit; it was suppose to replace all those other crappy hosting services. It's been known for a while that directly navigating to a i.com/direct-link.jpg link costs imgur because they get no ad impressions from those loads. While I think this is the eventual trend of every imgur page load, t…

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Re: Imgur is Covertly Redirecting Image Links on Facebook and Twitter

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@judk's comment should be higher... it is the unfortunate cycle of ad-supported startups. imgur grew out of the garden that is reddit; it was suppose to replace all those other crappy hosting services. It's been known for a while that directly navigating to a i.com/direct-link.jpg link costs imgur because they get no ad impressions from those loads. While I think this is the eventual trend of every imgur page load, t…

They're redirecting first-timers from sites like Facebook and Twiter who have many users who don't know an Imgur link from a Facebook CDN link. Reddit users all know what Imgur is already. There are many people on Facebook and Twitter who would likely browse through the types of stuff Imgur hosts on their homepage, not so much an issue for Reddit users. Imgur basically is just a more visual reddit with less reading...

Re: Imgur is Covertly Redirecting Image Links on Facebook and Twitter

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The creator of imgur (MrGrim on Reddit) has said on multiple occasions that hotlinking is acceptable way to use imgur: Four years ago - "I created imgur because the other image hosting sites forced you to see their ad-ridden pages (TinyPIC). I would never do the same to you. If you want to direct link to the image, then by all means do so."[1] Three years ago - "People linking to the page rather than the image is wha…

IMHO, "hotlinking" isn't the same as directing people from social media directly to an image url. You can still put " rel="nofollow">http://imgur.com/..."> on your web page and it will still work. The context of doing that is different from pointing someone directly to an image with the intent of showing it to them.

In your estimation, when did the definition of hotlinking change to what you portray?

Re: Imgur is Covertly Redirecting Image Links on Facebook and Twitter

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Look at you all the drama queens.

Hotlinking makes sense if you intend embedding inline an image to your site/forum/blog. Imgur still offers you this feature.

There is no (obvious) reason doing that when you are sharing a link to the image. Facebook/twitter dont allow you embedding images from external servers, imgur knows you are just linking to it, and redirects you to the image's page, as a well behavioured netizen should have done by themselves.

Re: Imgur is Covertly Redirecting Image Links on Facebook and Twitter

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I think they do this because the "i" subdomain is meant for embedding ( tag), not linking ( tag). Facebook, Twitter, etc. don't embed the image (incorrect behavior), but Reddit does (correct behavior).

Other than text self-posts, Reddit submission titles are all links to external URLs. There's no special case for imgur. They're links, not embeds.

Unless you use RES (Reddit Enhancement Suite)

Re: Imgur is Covertly Redirecting Image Links on Facebook and Twitter

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If the start location and end location for a user are reddit, why go through the trouble to capture some portion of the middle traffic as well? That's the beauty of an aggregator, you prosper through other people's content by providing additional value, not by competing with it. Also, I don't think there's an expectation from reddit users to be able to store images on reddit so you wouldn't be adding much perceived v…

The problem I see is reddit isn't an aggregator in the strict sense. Look at the front page, it's riddled with imgur links. How many of them (advice animals, original content, etc) were posted there just for reddit? I'll just say unscientifically, a lot. (After all, that's why imgur was born.) So you're a site with a major feature that (a) drives publishers to another site, and (b) drives viewers to the same site, ev…

What I don't understand is what you gain by adding the ability to store images? Is the point to reduce the need to use imgur? Yes, imgur is adding the ability to add comments to images, but their functionality is a far cry from that of reddit. Let's assume they add for w/e crazy reason the ability to have nested comments and groups with admins and other similar things. Only at that point are they really encroaching on reddit's ground, except, they've just manage to make a rather limited imitation as it's only for images. And even then, how does it hurt reddit? Reddit is an aggregator of largely varied content. Imgur simply isn't and can't be.
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