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What it's Really Like Working with Steve Jobs

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Re: What it's Really Like Working with Steve Jobs

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I'm pretty sure that at that time I had tons of music (using winamp) and photos on my computer (scanning was the way at that time).

You must've been somewhere nice that had fast internet. I think most people back then had dialup, and downloading a single song would take at least 20 minutes on their 28.8k modem.

Nobody used 28ks in 1998 unless their phone lines didn't support 56k.

Re: What it's Really Like Working with Steve Jobs

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So Apple basically was Steve Jobs. Time to ditch some stock.

When you look at some of the iApps - like iPhoto - i dont think he's irreplaceable. iPhoto sucks and always has. In software design, his influence was definitely hit and miss. Even a genius can err at times ;)

iPhoto sucks, but what was better?

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Between this and the Safari story, I'm struck at just how deep Apple's internal secrecy ethos runs. The idea that there is that level of dedication to keeping a project hidden, not just from outsiders, but from almost the entire rest of the company just blows my mind. It certainly explains how they're able to keep projects secret for as long as they do.

Is a culture of secrecy a good thing? Look at Apple Maps, it would clearly have benefited from more eyeballs.

There's no real knowledge to be gained with this line of questioning. There aren't many companies like Apple which makes it very hard to run controlled studies or do thorough research.

Also the markets they helped define have changed dramatically as a result of their involvement. So many variables... The best we can really say for now is this is Apple's history as known to outsiders. They accomplished these results. Take it as a data point.

Re: What it's Really Like Working with Steve Jobs

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So Jobs loved to micromanage. And it worked at Apple and at NeXT and at Apple, because Jobs knew a thing or two about software. But micromanaging your own cancer care doesn't work so well, does it now?

Judging from the Isaacson biography, Jobs would have been fine had he actually attended to the fact that he had cancer right away, rather than spending a year ignoring it.

Re: What it's Really Like Working with Steve Jobs

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> The idea of "personal digital media" was born. This was Steve's vision, and why he put together the iMac DV, with Firewire and iMovie. We called it the Digital Hub strategy internally, to encourage you to put lots of personal digital media on your home computer.

Here is Jobs presenting the Digital Hub concept at Macworld 2001: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9046oXrm7f8 (See also http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/commentary/cultofmac/2006/1... ) You can also see how the Digital Hub idea evidently influenced the layout of the Apple Store http://lowendmac.com/orchard/08th/roots-of-the-apple-store.h.... : the stands devoted to a particular kind of task, with appropriate gadgets attached to a Mac.

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People overplay the Apple Maps card. There was only ONE thing Apple did wrong with Apple Maps. And that was to not license data far, far more aggressively. The fact is that Google Maps as an app is buggy, lags terribly and clunky all round. It's the high quality of the data that sets it apart.

There is only ONE thing that a maps product absolutely has to get right, and that's the data. It's the core of the whole product. It wasn't just some unlucky team working that went down the wrong path and produced a substandard product (Aperture or MobileMe), this was the outright replacement of a product that almost all iPhone users consider a core feature of their device and, at some point during their time with th…

Yeah, well, maybe I'm the only one, but apple maps work fine for me. Massive improvement over the old maps experience. Google regularly got a ton of things wrong, even in urban areas like San Francisco, so I give Apple the benefit of the doubt when it comes to minor mistakes.

Then again, this whole discussion could be related to the fact that Apple users are about 985% more likely to nitpick a product than any other group of people on earth.

Re: What it's Really Like Working with Steve Jobs

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"It sounds kind of self-serving to say this, but he and I were a lot alike in that way, and in that process"

It's interesting that everyone seems to come away with this opinion, I wonder what it says about Steve's personality. I remember from reading his biography that many of the people he ultimately had failings out with claimed the exact same thing.

Re: What it's Really Like Working with Steve Jobs

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"Many years later, when NeXT acquired Apple for negative -$400M" Very interesting way to look at it.

> "Many years later, when NeXT acquired Apple for negative -$400M" Very interesting way to look at it. Really? I've always considered it the only way to look at it.

Haha, me too. I've been saying it this way since it happened.

Re: What it's Really Like Working with Steve Jobs

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People overplay the Apple Maps card. There was only ONE thing Apple did wrong with Apple Maps. And that was to not license data far, far more aggressively. The fact is that Google Maps as an app is buggy, lags terribly and clunky all round. It's the high quality of the data that sets it apart.

There is only ONE thing that a maps product absolutely has to get right, and that's the data. It's the core of the whole product. It wasn't just some unlucky team working that went down the wrong path and produced a substandard product (Aperture or MobileMe), this was the outright replacement of a product that almost all iPhone users consider a core feature of their device and, at some point during their time with th…

Why are you still upset? It's been months and Google Maps has been out for a while.

Re: What it's Really Like Working with Steve Jobs

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Two things that stood-out: >"Many years later, when NeXT acquired Apple for negative -$400M" and >"We would "throw them into the cauldron", and stir it, and soon nobody remembered exactly whose ideas were which. This let us make a great soup, a great potion, without worrying about who had what idea. This was critically important, in retrospect, to decouple the CEO from the ideas."

This second quote is part of what is now called design thinking and the "ideation" process. Take all input - no criticism allowed at this point - put everything on the table, and discuss as a group. It's very effective, generates more diverse ideas and prevents people from clinging to their own (I plead guilty).
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