Live data from Hacker News

What it's Really Like Working with Steve Jobs

inventor-labs.com

51–60 of 138 posts

Re: What it's Really Like Working with Steve Jobs

#51
post #19

Did I miss something here...? "In 1991, I started work at NeXT, as Product Manager for Interpersonal Computing. It was the internet, before there was much of an internet. We called it Interpersonal Computing, but nobody paid attention until 5 years later when the WWW was born." The web existed in 1991, and Mosaic was launched in 1993. I first saw it in 1993, and it was a pretty big deal at the time. Have I misunderst…

In fact, TimBL itself created the WWW using a NeXT machine.

Re: What it's Really Like Working with Steve Jobs

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure that at that time I had tons of music (using winamp) and photos on my computer (scanning was the way at that time).

You must've been somewhere nice that had fast internet. I think most people back then had dialup, and downloading a single song would take at least 20 minutes on their 28.8k modem.

We used to rip each others music at LAN parties when not playing Starcraft :-)

Re: What it's Really Like Working with Steve Jobs

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure that at that time I had tons of music (using winamp) and photos on my computer (scanning was the way at that time).

You must've been somewhere nice that had fast internet. I think most people back then had dialup, and downloading a single song would take at least 20 minutes on their 28.8k modem.

Most people I knew had 56k modems by 98 (by '99 I had a cable modem), 128kbs compression was the standard you'd find, and getting a song for free by just waiting 15 minutes was still magic

Edit almost forgot about Ethernet in the dorms. I picked my college because of high speed Internet.

Re: What it's Really Like Working with Steve Jobs

#55
post #3

"I think it was October or November of 1998" .. "The idea of "personal digital media" was born." .. "Before then, very vew people had any personal photos, or music, or home movies on their computers." Wasn't this the same time digital cameras and relevant sized mass storage at affordable prices started to become common place?

I'm pretty sure that at that time I had tons of music (using winamp) and photos on my computer (scanning was the way at that time).

Yes, even if you exclude MP3s of commercially-recorded music as not really personal, it would be very hard to defend the proposition 'iMovie gave birth to the idea of "personal digital media"' or even 'iMovie first made "personal digital media" a reality'. Apple (and MS) had been trying to make consumer video editing a reality since at least 1991 and the launch of QuickTime (an awkward date if you want to centre everything around Jobs and/or NeXT). iMovie and the FireWire iMacs probably were an important step forward in making digital video editing into a mainstream and well-oiled consumer activity though.

Re: What it's Really Like Working with Steve Jobs

#56
post #5

Between this and the Safari story, I'm struck at just how deep Apple's internal secrecy ethos runs. The idea that there is that level of dedication to keeping a project hidden, not just from outsiders, but from almost the entire rest of the company just blows my mind. It certainly explains how they're able to keep projects secret for as long as they do.

The military calls it "need to know basis". From the perspective of keeping secrets, it would be pretty dumb if you let every PFC in the army access diplomatic cables that had little to do with his actual duties.

Re: What it's Really Like Working with Steve Jobs

#57
post #3

"I think it was October or November of 1998" .. "The idea of "personal digital media" was born." .. "Before then, very vew people had any personal photos, or music, or home movies on their computers." Wasn't this the same time digital cameras and relevant sized mass storage at affordable prices started to become common place?

That's why patents on this sort of thing are so dangerous. The steady march of the state of the art makes the impossible possible. When it first becomes possible, it seems novel, because no one has ever done it before. But it was the hard disk and the image sensor in the camera that was the invention, not "personal digital media".

Re: What it's Really Like Working with Steve Jobs

#58

So Jobs loved to micromanage. And it worked at Apple and at NeXT and at Apple, because Jobs knew a thing or two about software. But micromanaging your own cancer care doesn't work so well, does it now?

A little harsh, but basically true. I SPoke to my doctor about Jobs and he basically said, if Jobs had gone with treatment when the cancer was discovered there was a 90% chance he would make it, as opposed to ~30% chance when he realized carrots aren't manna.

Re: What it's Really Like Working with Steve Jobs

#59
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In theory that is false, in practice it is less clear (at least to me). The ranking (and subsequent curve fitting known formally as calibration) is done across a level-band (bascially 'job title') across a much wider scope than a single team (i.e. across a division). The idea that your co-workers are actively plotting to somehow take some reward from you come review time is a poor caricature of reality. Does it happe…

This is impossible to read. Please restructure it in some way that involves paragraphs, fewer parenthesis and doesn't reference it's own sentences.

Sorry it is so hard to read, most of my posts here are casual thought not elaborately structured rhetoric. Rewriting it to better please you is not high on my list of things to do at the moment, so, pass.

Re: What it's Really Like Working with Steve Jobs

#60
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In theory that is false, in practice it is less clear (at least to me). The ranking (and subsequent curve fitting known formally as calibration) is done across a level-band (bascially 'job title') across a much wider scope than a single team (i.e. across a division). The idea that your co-workers are actively plotting to somehow take some reward from you come review time is a poor caricature of reality. Does it happe…

This is impossible to read. Please restructure it in some way that involves paragraphs, fewer parenthesis and doesn't reference it's own sentences.

I made it through. The trick is to breathe and take it one word at a time.
Post reply on HN