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Safari Technology Preview 248 Released

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Re: Safari Technology Preview 248 Released

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lapcat wrote: post #9
nikanj wrote: post #8

It’s impressive that pinch-zooming reddit.com in-out-in-out has reliably crashed ios safari for at least a few years already. One would assume Apple gets telemetry from iphone default browser crashes, and reddit seems important enough to warrant a fix

This was fixed but then reverted. No further updates 3 months later. https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305622 Not sure how this comment is related to Safari Technology Preview, though, which is Mac-only.

Kind of a confusing title, but maybe it means more to the WebKit team. I don't think I've ever seen jetsam used as a verb before.

Re: Safari Technology Preview 248 Released

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Post by nozzlegear »

owebmaster wrote: post #59
nozzlegear wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Intentionally how? Mobile Safari has pretty broad support for PWAs: https://pwascore.com

It does not. It doesn't support the installprompt event and hides the "add to home screen" behind 4 actions/clicks to make sure the users don't easily install PWAs.

So one missing thing is enough to decide that PWA support isn't broad and Apple doesn't care about them, despite all those supported PWA APIs?

> behind 4 actions/clicks to make sure the users don't easily install PWAs.

I maintain a PWA for retainer client. Our website has a paragraph telling users how to install the PWA via the share button. We'd have a paragraph telling them how to install it from the App Store too if it weren't a PWA.

Re: Safari Technology Preview 248 Released

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Post by wpm »

bearjaws wrote: post #12

I cannot use a browser that is owned by a company who's financial model is dependent upon browsers being nerfed. Apple and Google have far too many incentives to wall garden browsers, Apple due to the app store, Google due to advertising. Independent browsers are the only safe path forward.

Funny, I prefer to use Safari because it is just a damn web browser and isn't trying to let every webslop dev try and re-invent the wheel in slow JITed Javascript and build their own crappy operating system. Whatever their reason, Apple is the enemy of my enemy, and therefore, in this regard, my friend.

Re: Safari Technology Preview 248 Released

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Post by dylan604 »

nozzlegear wrote: post #63
owebmaster wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does not. It doesn't support the installprompt event and hides the "add to home screen" behind 4 actions/clicks to make sure the users don't easily install PWAs.

So one missing thing is enough to decide that PWA support isn't broad and Apple doesn't care about them, despite all those supported PWA APIs? > behind 4 actions/clicks to make sure the users don't easily install PWAs. I maintain a PWA for retainer client. Our website has a paragraph telling users how to install the PWA via the share button. We'd have a paragraph telling them how to install it from the App Store too…

I think the fact that the paragraph is necessary is the damning part

Re: Safari Technology Preview 248 Released

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Post by nozzlegear »

dylan604 wrote: post #65
nozzlegear wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So one missing thing is enough to decide that PWA support isn't broad and Apple doesn't care about them, despite all those supported PWA APIs? > behind 4 actions/clicks to make sure the users don't easily install PWAs. I maintain a PWA for retainer client. Our website has a paragraph telling users how to install the PWA via the share button. We'd have a paragraph telling them how to install it from the App Store too…

I think the fact that the paragraph is necessary is the damning part

Like I said, we'd have that paragraph even if the app was on the App Store. If it's damning, then it only damns the users because they're goldfish.

Re: Safari Technology Preview 248 Released

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Post by owebmaster »

nozzlegear wrote: post #63
owebmaster wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does not. It doesn't support the installprompt event and hides the "add to home screen" behind 4 actions/clicks to make sure the users don't easily install PWAs.

So one missing thing is enough to decide that PWA support isn't broad and Apple doesn't care about them, despite all those supported PWA APIs? > behind 4 actions/clicks to make sure the users don't easily install PWAs. I maintain a PWA for retainer client. Our website has a paragraph telling users how to install the PWA via the share button. We'd have a paragraph telling them how to install it from the App Store too…

One missing thing? You think Apple forgot to implement the install event? Or that there is some technical reason?

Re: Safari Technology Preview 248 Released

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Post by nozzlegear »

owebmaster wrote: post #68
nozzlegear wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So one missing thing is enough to decide that PWA support isn't broad and Apple doesn't care about them, despite all those supported PWA APIs? > behind 4 actions/clicks to make sure the users don't easily install PWAs. I maintain a PWA for retainer client. Our website has a paragraph telling users how to install the PWA via the share button. We'd have a paragraph telling them how to install it from the App Store too…

One missing thing? You think Apple forgot to implement the install event? Or that there is some technical reason?

No, I'm asking if that's the one thing you're hung up on? I feel like that was obvious.

Re: Safari Technology Preview 248 Released

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Post by faizmokh »

paddingtone wrote: post #11
Affric wrote: post #10

Since they nixed uBlock Origin Safari has not been a serious web browser to me. No amount of technology can make up for it.

I've been using uBlock Origin Lite on Safari with no issues. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ublock-origin-lite/id674534269...

Agree. I've never seen any single ads so far.

Even the ads on the Youtube are block by default. It's quite buggy though.

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