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Re: Firefox 153.0 Beta

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Post by tomkarho »

crote wrote: post #2

> Firefox now verifies and displays Qualified Website Authentication Certificates (QWACs) in accordance with eIDAS regulations. Interesting that they just buried this in the middle without even a screenshot, considering how hostile Mozilla has been to the proposal in the past[0]. Considering that they previously made quite strong arguments that implementing QWAC would undermine security by completely bypassing the ex…

> Will there be any traditional user-serving browsers left a few years from now?

One can hope that by then Ladybird has landed. There was some rumblings about an alpha release come 2027 so "few years" might actually be achievable if the speed remains constant.

Re: Firefox 153.0 Beta

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Post by erichdongubler »

mmooss wrote: post #35

> Containers let you keep separate parts of your online life (work, shopping, personal, banking) logged into different accounts in the same browser window, but keep your cookies and ad tracking isolated inside each container. What's new here? Containers have been an add-on, at least, for a long time? Is it integrated into core Firefox for the first time? > Quickly pick and copy a color from any page by typing "pick c…

See this reply to a sibling of your comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48980044

Re: Firefox 153.0 Beta

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Post by mbirth »

tomkarho wrote: post #61
crote wrote: post #2

> Firefox now verifies and displays Qualified Website Authentication Certificates (QWACs) in accordance with eIDAS regulations. Interesting that they just buried this in the middle without even a screenshot, considering how hostile Mozilla has been to the proposal in the past[0]. Considering that they previously made quite strong arguments that implementing QWAC would undermine security by completely bypassing the ex…

> Will there be any traditional user-serving browsers left a few years from now? One can hope that by then Ladybird has landed. There was some rumblings about an alpha release come 2027 so "few years" might actually be achievable if the speed remains constant.

I’m waiting for the Gemini people to (re-)discover HTML 3.2 or 4.0. Maybe this then becomes a slightly bigger movement as all current browsers should support it and there are plenty much smaller/more efficient browsers available from back in the time.

Re: Firefox 153.0 Beta

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Post by OkayPhysicist »

mmooss wrote: post #54
OkayPhysicist wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Users absolutely can edit HTML/CSS/JS without any other tools. That's what the entire dev-tools section of the browser is about.

Dev tools are not for 99% of end users and not realistically available to them (even if they stumble across dev tools, they don't know what they've found or how to use them). PDF editing is for end users and is realistically available.

That seems like all the more reason it's worthwhile. If they're going to invest in the tools for 1% of their users, why wouldn't they invest in tools for 50% of their users?

Re: Firefox 153.0 Beta

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Post by panzi »

RunSet wrote: post #42
crote wrote: post #2

> Firefox now verifies and displays Qualified Website Authentication Certificates (QWACs) in accordance with eIDAS regulations. Interesting that they just buried this in the middle without even a screenshot, considering how hostile Mozilla has been to the proposal in the past[0]. Considering that they previously made quite strong arguments that implementing QWAC would undermine security by completely bypassing the ex…

> Firefox seems hellbent on rapidly turning into a reimplementation of Chrome You can rest assured that Mozilla will never copy Chrome's updating the mouse coordinates during dragstart, drag and dragend events. "the spec doesn't specify what the properties should be set to, just that they should be set and we currently set them to 0." https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=505521 16 years and no sign of a resol…

So it's old enough already in Europe.

Re: Firefox 153.0 Beta

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Post by tosti »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #56
lproven wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they don't typically include editing functionality. Not true. The original Mozilla Internet Suite was a combined browser, email/newsgroups client, and web-page editor. It was an open-sourced version of Netscape Communicator which did the same things. Seamonkey is the modern fork. Firefox is the result of a project to cut down the Mozilla suite to something smaller, simpler and more focused, but its parent program a…

I stand by the statement. Modern browsers typically do not include all that functionality. For instance, consider... well, as you say - Firefox supposedly was the cut down version that didn't include all that stuff. If Mozilla wants to make seamonkey a major part of their product suite, I'd be basically on board with that, but that thing's niche.

It's an editor, just one that you can program in JavaScript.

Remember WordPerfect? When you press F12 in Firefox, you have essentially the same thing as the reveal codes pane in WP.

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