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Why SpaceX 2040 Revenue FCST $4.3T in highly unlikely

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Re: Why SpaceX 2040 Revenue FCST $4.3T in highly unlikely

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Another factor I don't see mentioned: every Trump policy is inflationary. Deporting the labor base, deterring legal immigration, applying tariffs that were basically derived by taking the trade deficit with a country and dividing by 2, and now locking up 20% of the global oil market by shutting down the Strait of Hormuz.

The Fed's response will have to be to raise rates, which is going to crush the multiple of any stock whose valuation is based on the expectation of massive growth.

Re: Why SpaceX 2040 Revenue FCST $4.3T in highly unlikely

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SpaceX already blown through a number of "... but this cannot be!" forecasts. Would not discount them easily.

I was thinking about this lately as well. If you break down their plan of launching a LOT of solar panels into space and strapping a GPU cluster to it. It's not _that_ crazy now.

Prices for solar panels have dropped 90% in the last 10 years.

Price per kilo to Low Earth Orbit has dropped ~50% in the last 10 years.

SpaceX's entire plan is to keep dropping both of these prices down even more with massive solar panel / starship factories.

Re: Why SpaceX 2040 Revenue FCST $4.3T in highly unlikely

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

at that inflation rate the US dollar would lose its reserve currency status so I doubt it at some point interest rates should reach double digits like in the 70s following oil crisis the only crazy scenario for spaceX is it does space exploration/mining and finds something extremely exotic or valuable and sought after.

I get the feeling that in 5yrs or so if China makes the yuan free-floating it will be more of a reserve currency. All spaceX has to do is keep being as innovative and industrious as it is now, in the physical world as all other companies are getting very lazy or just working on software. Eventually it'll probably go the way of GE because humans are humans, but I think we have a few decades until more compelling place…

> All spaceX has to do is keep being as innovative and industrious as it is now

SpaceX seemed to lose a big step when Musk got involved in DOGE. I don't know if key people left or what, but the pace seem to slow considerably, and the successes also seemed to come to a crashing halt.

Re: Why SpaceX 2040 Revenue FCST $4.3T in highly unlikely

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, but I'm not pricing a stock today based on the assumption that this country will turn into a theocratic autocracy with a 70% YoY inflation rate for 15 years. Besides, if I was pricing that in, I'd be buying indexes and not a specific stock. The 70% YoY inflation would rise all tides. Not just SpaceX.

If inflation is really that high I'm buying hard assets that won't depreciate. Sure I will need some cash, but gold bars in my personal safe suddenly are a great investment (gold is generally a terrible investment, but when inflation is the main concern is is really good)

Until SpaceX finds that golden asteroid.

Re: Why SpaceX 2040 Revenue FCST $4.3T in highly unlikely

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post #32

SpaceX already blown through a number of "... but this cannot be!" forecasts. Would not discount them easily.

SpaceX's entire history is full of, "there's no way they'll ever do X", followed by them doing it. They definitely haven't hit all of their goals, but I don't think anything they want to do is impossible, just really difficult.

“Here at SpaceX we specialize in making the impossible merely late.”

-Elon

Re: Why SpaceX 2040 Revenue FCST $4.3T in highly unlikely

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I know this sounds "bad" but early in Tesla's forcasts, I've seen many "highly unlikely" articles, but Tesla ended up blowing past expectations. This one is tough too, but I hate just dismiss it as unlikely especially with Elon at the helm

Tesla spent almost years scraping by, almost went bankrupt in 2018, had three years of "exceeds expectation" from 2020 to 2023 and is now being murdered by competitors. A lot of "income" comes from selling regulatory credits, not cars. FSD is up to v14 and there is no sense in which it's "Full", or is likely to be "Full" any time soon. The early computer industry created a good few companies which achieved profitabil…

Do you think full self-driving (level 5) is near? Driving a car is something we teach children to do. Surely FSD has to be getting close, no?

Is this something Anthropic, Google, OpenAI, Meta, or any of the other big AI investors are close to solving?

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