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Why SpaceX 2040 Revenue FCST $4.3T in highly unlikely

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Re: Why SpaceX 2040 Revenue FCST $4.3T in highly unlikely

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I'm still struggling with the idea that 4,400 millionaires are going to be created overnight (out of 22,000 employees) Because many of them are going to sell sell sell at least half of their shares Which then means the value will PLUMMET

College roommate worked for nvidia and cashed out last year and retired in his early 50s. Tens of millions in cash. After tax too. Am I jealous? Hell yes.

Re: Why SpaceX 2040 Revenue FCST $4.3T in highly unlikely

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I know this sounds "bad" but early in Tesla's forcasts, I've seen many "highly unlikely" articles, but Tesla ended up blowing past expectations. This one is tough too, but I hate just dismiss it as unlikely especially with Elon at the helm

I think the only opinion I care about on this will be Aswath Damodaran https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQKIJU7TmTc

I plan to stay the fuck away from it either way, but he's at least someone who's not only good at this stuff, showing their work and approaching it professionally.

I haven't had time to watch the video, but I read through part of the blog post, and seems he believes 1.2T is possible,but I won't know how much I agree with that until I finish reading/watching it all.

It's at, the very least, a professional presentation so it's a hell of a lot easier to see why and what he does/doesn't agree with.

Re: Why SpaceX 2040 Revenue FCST $4.3T in highly unlikely

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post #2

You never know what inflation gonna be in futute. In some countries that turned into autocracies with strong and long standing leaders who love traditional values and religion inflation can easily be 30-70% a year. Then not only 4.3T reachable, but even 43T.

Sorry, but I'm not pricing a stock today based on the assumption that this country will turn into a theocratic autocracy with a 70% YoY inflation rate for 15 years. Besides, if I was pricing that in, I'd be buying indexes and not a specific stock. The 70% YoY inflation would rise all tides. Not just SpaceX.

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Re: Why SpaceX 2040 Revenue FCST $4.3T in highly unlikely

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post #20

I'm still struggling with the idea that 4,400 millionaires are going to be created overnight (out of 22,000 employees) Because many of them are going to sell sell sell at least half of their shares Which then means the value will PLUMMET

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Re: Why SpaceX 2040 Revenue FCST $4.3T in highly unlikely

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post #2

You never know what inflation gonna be in futute. In some countries that turned into autocracies with strong and long standing leaders who love traditional values and religion inflation can easily be 30-70% a year. Then not only 4.3T reachable, but even 43T.

Sorry, but I'm not pricing a stock today based on the assumption that this country will turn into a theocratic autocracy with a 70% YoY inflation rate for 15 years. Besides, if I was pricing that in, I'd be buying indexes and not a specific stock. The 70% YoY inflation would rise all tides. Not just SpaceX.

Nothing the GP said makes SpaceX a better stock. It would just make the promise technically true in a way that doesn't benefit any investor.

Or, in other words, it's a joke.

Re: Why SpaceX 2040 Revenue FCST $4.3T in highly unlikely

#37
post #12

I know this sounds "bad" but early in Tesla's forcasts, I've seen many "highly unlikely" articles, but Tesla ended up blowing past expectations. This one is tough too, but I hate just dismiss it as unlikely especially with Elon at the helm

Tesla spent almost years scraping by, almost went bankrupt in 2018, had three years of "exceeds expectation" from 2020 to 2023 and is now being murdered by competitors.

A lot of "income" comes from selling regulatory credits, not cars.

FSD is up to v14 and there is no sense in which it's "Full", or is likely to be "Full" any time soon.

The early computer industry created a good few companies which achieved profitability quickly and posted solid YoY expansion for decades.

The histories of SpaceX and Tesla show no evidence of that pattern.

Re: Why SpaceX 2040 Revenue FCST $4.3T in highly unlikely

#38
post #8

The actual takeaway question is "is Elon Musk on a frontier of his own — or is the market extrapolating one proven outlier onto an unproven one?" The HN title editorializes its own answer to the author's question.

it's a rhetorical question, not a real one. the author's inclination is clear as day.

it's written to provoke thought and reflection.

the title does the reflection on behalf of the reader which is a disservice.

Re: Why SpaceX 2040 Revenue FCST $4.3T in highly unlikely

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post #4
post #2

You never know what inflation gonna be in futute. In some countries that turned into autocracies with strong and long standing leaders who love traditional values and religion inflation can easily be 30-70% a year. Then not only 4.3T reachable, but even 43T.

Sorry, but I'm not pricing a stock today based on the assumption that this country will turn into a theocratic autocracy with a 70% YoY inflation rate for 15 years. Besides, if I was pricing that in, I'd be buying indexes and not a specific stock. The 70% YoY inflation would rise all tides. Not just SpaceX.

But these insane valuations are leading the tide-rising. This is one instrument in inflation because it's "creating" this money from nothing. All the employees that got a $5k bonus 5yrs ago will see it rise to $50k (or more) out of thin air (crazy financial mechanisms).

Re: Why SpaceX 2040 Revenue FCST $4.3T in highly unlikely

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You never know what inflation gonna be in futute. In some countries that turned into autocracies with strong and long standing leaders who love traditional values and religion inflation can easily be 30-70% a year. Then not only 4.3T reachable, but even 43T.

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