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French-Iranian author Marjane Satrapi, author of 'Persepolis', dies at 56

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Re: French-Iranian author Marjane Satrapi, author of 'Persepolis', dies at 56

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post #56

Has there been any study that analyses the frequency of natural death of one shortly after death of his/her partner. How different is that compared to what one would expect assuming statistical independence and based image and health adjusted mortality curves.

Does it say what happened?

Died of sadness did make me wonder about something self inflicted.

Re: French-Iranian author Marjane Satrapi, author of 'Persepolis', dies at 56

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you talked with actual Iranians or people who've been in Iran, they would corroborate what I said. The IRGC truly aims to control every aspect of people's lives - it's less pronounced in places like Tehran, but it's definitely there. Hell, if you read Marjane Satrapi's Persepolis, you would find plenty of similar examples. The haircuts are just the cherry on top of that authoritarian cake. Also, the west is not ju…

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The haircuts were an official announcement from the Ministry of Culture and Islamic Guidance:

https://www.bbc.com/news/10527088

And it didn't stop here:

https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-32587418

A few of my friends went there and I talked with a few Iranians whose families moved out. Yeah, the people are welcoming and you can have an amazing experience there, but it's still a theocratic regime. All the things you did happened because those who want to control everyone simply can't be everywhere at all times.

You don't see people in the west getting the death penalty for their political activity like you do in Iran.

My country also tried to interfere with people's private lives decades ago, but fortunately that system collapsed.

You can't make the argument that the common person enjoys the same freedom in Iran as they do in the west.

Re: French-Iranian author Marjane Satrapi, author of 'Persepolis', dies at 56

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post #35

What's the connection with France? Even Khomeini was in exile in France until the shah was deposed.

I guess kind of like Gabriel Garcia and Mexico, though I don't think Columbians would like anyone to describe him as having been Mexican (ex as Mexican-Columbian) in any way though he lived there for the majority of his life and had become very well integrated into the elite circles of Mexico city -that said, he never renounced his Columbian citizenship and I think he also considered himself Columbian and not Mexican…

Nitpick: it's Colombia, not Columbia. And the last name is Garcia Marquez. Splitting half of the last name is not generally done. It sounds like calling somebody called McDonald just Mac.

Re: French-Iranian author Marjane Satrapi, author of 'Persepolis', dies at 56

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Besides her groundbeaking Persepolis, I was at the world premiere of The Voices, a wonderful black comedy, and got angry that the stupid distributor buried the film. We all loved it. Fuckers. She had a lot of problems to get her next films financed then.

Re: French-Iranian author Marjane Satrapi, author of 'Persepolis', dies at 56

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What's the connection with France? Even Khomeini was in exile in France until the shah was deposed.

There were two large exile groups subsequent to the Iranian revolution: France and Albania. MEK has a large presence in both. I don't know enough of the history to say whether France was chosen because there was _already_ an affinity or not, but interestingly "merci" is one of the common ways to say "thank you" in Persian.

The Vienna group was bigger. That's why she was sent to Vienna. Esp. the ex aristocrats and generals are all living in Vienna. Only the religious nutheads in Paris.

Re: French-Iranian author Marjane Satrapi, author of 'Persepolis', dies at 56

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s a rather uncharitable take on what the poster you’re responding to wrote. I read Persepolis a few years ago, and it’s hard not to come away with a similar impression. The first part often does resemble a fairy tale of sorts, while the second part is a pretty dark story of teenage alienation. The contrast is jarring, and it goes well beyond “duh nobody’s perfect”. Both parts are excellent in their own right, an…

What's jarring to many people is it isn't the three act hero's journey of a noble savage. The "something" going on is that it isn't a copy of just about the only narrative in western mythos: 1. Departure - from a humble background the subject leaves amid struggle 2. Growth and Initiation - the subject discovers who they are building themselves into the hero they'll become 3. Heroic Return - the now hero makes a retur…

I kind of resent that "western" started to be used as synonym for "America". Specifically this particular schema along with insistence with happy ending is specific feature of American book writing and cinema. Non American literature is much more likely to go out of that schematic.

To whoever is downvoting this: it is not even a criticism. Just a description. When you discuss stories, Americans will frequently insist on the "hero story is the only one possible fun story" and simultaneously interpret bad ending as punishment for moral failure. French wont argue that all that often. And European literature is in general more likely not be that.

And second, using "western" as synonym for "american" wherever the author knows a lot about American and just assumes everything in Europe is exactly the same is something I noticed multiple times on HN.

Re: French-Iranian author Marjane Satrapi, author of 'Persepolis', dies at 56

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe there is a qualitative difference between the governing systems in a country that tries to regulate personal appearances, and one that would shift it's military to the other side of the planet, bombing and murdering Iranian school children and civilians en-masse for no particular reason. I also believe that your claim of seven "official allowed" haircuts is bs, as with almost everything I ever read about Ir…

I don't see you shadow banned. But complaining about upvotes and moderation is bad decorum and will get you downvoted out.

He's totally being deliberately buried.

Which ironically enough proves the precise point.

Re: French-Iranian author Marjane Satrapi, author of 'Persepolis', dies at 56

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I always enjoyed the first half of Persepolis. Told from Satrapi's perspective, it was a very relatable story about a young child who was swept up by the world events around her, and tried to rebel in very normal, child-like ways. It was very relatable in that abstract sense, even if most of us have not been through a violent revolution. (and even more violent subsequent war with a neighboring state) The second half…

> All of which are understandable for someone who has been through such a traumatic turn of events, however it was a bit sad that the young, rebellious child that was so likable did not seem to survive the conflict.

Great literature does not exist to be heartwarming but to speak fundamental truths, however uncomfortable they are. Persepolis cleaned up as you implicitly desire would cease to be the great work that it is.

Re: French-Iranian author Marjane Satrapi, author of 'Persepolis', dies at 56

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post #28

I always enjoyed the first half of Persepolis. Told from Satrapi's perspective, it was a very relatable story about a young child who was swept up by the world events around her, and tried to rebel in very normal, child-like ways. It was very relatable in that abstract sense, even if most of us have not been through a violent revolution. (and even more violent subsequent war with a neighboring state) The second half…

I’ve always wondered how much of the second part is truth and how much is fiction. That a teenage girl from Iran, living by herself in Central Europe with essentially no local connections, would become a drug dealer to her classmates, and on top of that somehow be let off the hook for it by the headmaster, stretches credibility a little bit.

A foreign student who is afraid of returning to her home country sounds like an ideal low-level drug dealer. They are legally vulnerable because they are afraid of being expelled from the country, and they have access to lots of potential buyers in their fellow students. And someone who is new and is looking for friends is more easily approached and recruited.
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