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Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by dist-epoch »

zuminator wrote: post #33
Lalabadie wrote: post #2

The whole first section: 9 features, 9 titles with "AI" in them. I don't think their use of it is bad at all, I'm just tired.

They could remove the word "AI" from each one of those feature titles, and the titles would be just as descriptive without them. At this point, it's just marketing noise, more distracting than informative. Maybe like "cyber" in the 1990s. Would you like some AI tea with your cybercrumpets?

"Background removal" or "Face aging" without AI were done before, and they were shit.

Putting "AI" into the feature title means "this time it actually works"

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by dofm »

jackofalltrades wrote: post #21
bbatha wrote: post #9

For all the potshots about AI, this update is huge even if you take away the AI features. They basically added lightroom to this release. There's some polish before you'd want to change your subscription, but its really tempting. It may be the best photo management/editor on linux. Yes, I know about darktable and rawtherapee and I stand by what I said. They also added a ton of motion graphics stuff which from the bet…

I was not aware that we could edit photos in DaVinci Resolve in Linux. Thank you for this info, I'll certainly give it a try!

Output size is limited to 4K in the free version, I think. Which is not nothing (8MP or something, good for a reasonably large print) but it might make you question how much editing belongs inside Resolve.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by embedding-shape »

dofm wrote: post #59
embedding-shape wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember CS2 making big news with the "healing brush", that's like 20 years ago or something like that.

That wasn’t an AI tool at all, though. Neither is pre-2023 content-aware fill, AFAIK. They are both PatchMatch (well the healing brush certainly is), which is a heroic bit of code. Entirely deterministic statistical algorithm. Not AI by really any definition (including back then)

In my mind, it's as much "AI" as "AI Slate ID" introduced in this release, which I guess was kind of the point of what GP said.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

Lalabadie wrote: post #12
miniman1337 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its all local if that helps?

I think they've made lots of great practical choices! 100% in agreement with running local models for these tasks. My opinion is that, for end users, if you name your feature "AI" to market it, you kind of already failed to read the room. You're writing to VCs while hoping it convinces customers. Name what the feature does, what it gains them. Call it "smart" if you must imply some black box treatment. Naming AI as t…

> My opinion is that, for end users, if you name your feature "AI" to market it, you kind of already failed to read the room. You're writing to VCs while hoping it convinces customers.

100% this.

Maybe I live in a bubble, but consumer sentiment regarding AI seems extremely negative. Boasting "AI" features is more likely to lose sales than to create them.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by gigatree »

dist-epoch wrote: post #55
jscheel wrote: post #40

I really don't understand why people are complaining about the AI features. These all mostly seem like solid quality of life enhancements and CGI-like tweaks.

Artists HATE AI. I fully expect some sort of DaVinci Resolve backlash, artists refusing to cooperate with those using this software.

“WE WANT TO DO THINGS THE HARD WAY AND WE WON’T BUDGE”

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by thewebguyd »

bbatha wrote: post #9

For all the potshots about AI, this update is huge even if you take away the AI features. They basically added lightroom to this release. There's some polish before you'd want to change your subscription, but its really tempting. It may be the best photo management/editor on linux. Yes, I know about darktable and rawtherapee and I stand by what I said. They also added a ton of motion graphics stuff which from the bet…

I run a photography biz on the side, and this is huge tbh.

I already used Davinci to make a custom LUT, blended it with the Adobe camera standard profile to use in lightroom as a base for all my edits as Davinci's color tools are much better, and doing it this way just lets you get tones that you couldn't other wise get with Lighroom/ACR alone. This basically removes the need to have lightroom in there as a finishing step.

The only downside is by now I've got a really solid ImagenAI profile based on the 30k photos I've fed it over time, and that obviously relies on a lightroom catalog, and is also capable of applying my LUT since I've made it a slider in LR. I hate adobe, but I'm not sure I could go back to not using Imagen as now I can turn around a full wedding gallery in about 2 days.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by criddell »

swatcoder wrote: post #32
echelon wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> Most video is going to be AI in the near future That's like saying all fine art would be photography, all film would be CGI, or all music would be synthesized electronica. That's not how aesthetics seem to work. Artists will make more or less good use of generative AI in their work, and it will probably seep into most media in some way or another, effecting them, but arts mostly don't get replaced and AI doesn't re…

> That's like saying all fine art would be photography

Or is it like saying most portraits will be photographs rather than paintings? There are still a lot of portraits painted (maybe even as many as the pre-camera days), but by raw numbers most portraits are created by photographers.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by Papazsazsa »

Lalabadie wrote: post #2

The whole first section: 9 features, 9 titles with "AI" in them. I don't think their use of it is bad at all, I'm just tired.

You're right to be tired of it, and of course I haven't tired these specific features yet, but Davinci was already lowering the barrier to entry for filmmakers, and if 21 works as they say it will, then you're looking at a major lowering of said barrier.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by anon7000 »

rafram wrote: post #57
bensyverson wrote: post #47

Hey Blackmagic, just be sure you're not in violation of Illinois BIPA with the face search thing. They can and will come after you.

Pretty sure that does not cover a face database indexing your own photos/videos, running locally on your own computer. If it did, that would be extremely silly.

Yeah, that’s been a thing in photo software for at least like 20 years. I remember using it as a teenager for my parents
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