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Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

#51
post #9

For all the potshots about AI, this update is huge even if you take away the AI features. They basically added lightroom to this release. There's some polish before you'd want to change your subscription, but its really tempting. It may be the best photo management/editor on linux. Yes, I know about darktable and rawtherapee and I stand by what I said. They also added a ton of motion graphics stuff which from the bet…

Is the Lightroom stuff the same as was discussed on HN a couple months ago? If so, then, see also 296 comments about the new photo mode: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47760529

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

#53

Hey Blackmagic, just be sure you're not in violation of Illinois BIPA with the face search thing. They can and will come after you.

Doesn't seem to apply here.

> BIPA establishes standards for how companies must handle Illinois consumers’ biometric information. In addition to its notice and consent requirement, the law prohibits any company from selling or otherwise profiting from consumers’ biometric information.

https://www.aclu-il.org/campaigns-initiatives/biometric-info...

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

#54
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Lightroom competitor would be a big (and welcome) change to the market if it delivers.

The Lightroom competitor working on Linux is a huge news. (Darktable doesn't count, it's a scientific software with some wobbly UI).

Edit: Still garbage, required 100-lines script and LD_* shim to make it even run at Linux Mint 22.3 on AMD CPU + GPU. UX is even worse than Darktable, don't bother, not even close to Lightroom.

At this point we need a Kickstarter campaign to make Lightroom run in Wine/Proton (no, no matter how much you try, it will not work so far). Edit: or GSOC to support Darktable to improve their UX.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

#55
post #40

I really don't understand why people are complaining about the AI features. These all mostly seem like solid quality of life enhancements and CGI-like tweaks.

Artists HATE AI. I fully expect some sort of DaVinci Resolve backlash, artists refusing to cooperate with those using this software.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

#56

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The release announcement on the forum at https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=2369... lists what is new. AI is obviously a lot of the focus when it comes to talking about the product, (and in the current environment that is no surprise), but is still only a small portion of what is new in this release.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

#57

Hey Blackmagic, just be sure you're not in violation of Illinois BIPA with the face search thing. They can and will come after you.

Pretty sure that does not cover a face database indexing your own photos/videos, running locally on your own computer. If it did, that would be extremely silly.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

#58
post #36

For people using Resolve, would you recommend someone already quite well-versed in KDenLive to switch, for some non-profit work on cutting together educational content with some animations, some talks etc? Will it allow me to drastically improve my workflow (save time for some tedious tasks), increase quality of the outputs etc?

Resolve was a much better experience for me than kdenlive. But you can easily try it out for yourself because most of it is completely free (in fact you probably won't ever need the paid features for what you do)

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, nobody would have complained about "content aware face fill", "AI" image edition tools have been standard for ten years in Photoshop

I remember CS2 making big news with the "healing brush", that's like 20 years ago or something like that.

That wasn’t an AI tool at all, though. Neither is pre-2023 content-aware fill, AFAIK.

They are both PatchMatch (well the healing brush certainly is), which is a heroic bit of code. Entirely deterministic statistical algorithm. Not AI by really any definition (including back then)

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

#60
post #40

I really don't understand why people are complaining about the AI features. These all mostly seem like solid quality of life enhancements and CGI-like tweaks.

some of these genuinely excite me, like the slate recognition (chore-reduction), clip search (although I'd want to see how reliable it is), and deblur (a typical PITA post fix). anything that makes masking, tracking, and level-matching easier saves hours on hours, but only if they're either reliable or easy to fix what the automation gets wrong (and it'll always get something wrong by the director, no matter how good it is, because telling editors what they did wrong is how directors make money).

the more SFX-end ones like facial aging and face reshaper, or the talent-replacing ones like speech cloning/ADR, feel both too prescriptive for a director to dial in what they aesthetically want, and also not good enough for the final cut. so I struggle to find where they'd be actually useful in a workflow as opposed to being a trap, looking just fine enough at a glance to sneak into a final cut while looking poor when viewed by the audience.

likewise the focal adjustment and upscaling just feel gross. the kinds of things a good cinematographer can already do, and it'll be so so tempting to use tools instead of taking time to do it right in camera because it'll look good enough in the editing bay, but I feel like it'd really stand out as fake in the final cut unless you're targeting like, heavily compressed social ads. the less you use them the better they'll work, which isn't ideal for a marquee feature.

if the blemish remover really does respect continuity it'd be a nice-to-have, but it also feels like another trap to be careless/cheap on things like makeup or lighting at the shoot, at the expense of looking fake in post

I think that's the broader angle that bugs me the most. all of these tools are convenience tools for editors, but in the end they'll really be justifications for directors/producers/studios/agencies to cheap out and do shittier work faster on the shoot. a cheap, shitty shoot covered in AI bandaids is still going to hit an audience like a cheap, shitty shoot.

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