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1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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Post by pavel_lishin »

FrustratedMonky wrote: post #41
Netcob wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a theory that the modern world would not exist without it.

I don't think this is even sarcastic. There are some theories that Autism was more useful in the wilderness. More adapted to the old world, not the modern world.

I don't think you're wrong, but I do think that the "modern" world - which I guess I'd label as anything that happened after the invention of writing and cities - really let those individuals thrive, and let their work become very useful for the world at large.

Trying to diagnose people across millennia is a fool's errand, but I'd wager a lot to say that people like Newton & Tesla were at the very least neurodivergent in some way, and they've had wildly outsized impacts on the world.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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Post by bombcar »

pixl97 wrote: post #44
accrual wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, the anarchy and inability to truly protect anything is part of the appeal of 2b2t. There was an interesting base project wherein the true coordinates were only known to the top leaders. All other builders connected through a custom client that offset the coordinates to hide the true location. If anyone became untrusted, they were simply blocked from the client and could not expose the coordinates. There was care…

If I remember one of these stories right, a screenshot of netherrite blocks on the floor. A member of the community calculated the block placement in the chunk and used this to determine where it was on the actual map.

That's happened a number of times on various items - bedrock patterns, nether rack layout, etc.

It's all based on the seed and coordinates.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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Post by jdw64 »

bombcar wrote: post #60
jdw64 wrote: post #57

Does anyone happen to have world data from a Minecraft survival server? Could you please share it with me? It would be great if it has some player history included. I'm trying to gather about 10 of them, but it's not easy.

What kind of things are you looking for? Reach out to Pixlriffs, he has world downloads of his Survival Guide servers and likely access to the HermitCraft ones, too.

I've already downloaded Hermitcraft. Thank you, I'll check out Pixlriffs. I'm asking because I have some things I'm curious about regarding Minecraft. Have a great day, and I wish you the best with everything you do.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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Post by bstsb »

bombcar wrote: post #60
jdw64 wrote: post #57

Does anyone happen to have world data from a Minecraft survival server? Could you please share it with me? It would be great if it has some player history included. I'm trying to gather about 10 of them, but it's not easy.

What kind of things are you looking for? Reach out to Pixlriffs, he has world downloads of his Survival Guide servers and likely access to the HermitCraft ones, too.

hermitcraft's official website features world downloads for S1-10, as well as modded seasons

https://hermitcraft.com/

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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Post by bombcar »

arboles wrote: post #58
Eduard wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

to my understanding, the 2b2t map has a size of 80 terabytes.

They didn't scrape the entire map. A minecraft map is 30 million blocks^2

Technically you only need to scrape the generated chunks.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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Post by 2001zhaozhao »

MattCruikshank wrote: post #16

I'm so continuously confused why Minecraft doesn't have a show-off mode where a team of people can build something, and then someone else can spectate it, without causing undue server load. I should be able to give you a URL to some location, and when you click it, it opens up Minecraft, streams the blocks, and you're viewing it. minecraft://server/loc?w=0&x=0&y=0&z=0 w is the overworld, nether, end, etc. And if you…

I have a Minecraft-compatible game engine and it'd be an awesome project to host a copy of this world that people can fly around in if there's no legal issues.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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Post by palinnilap »

Minecraft world downloading is an interesting problem, because attempting to solve it by brute force (Loading all chunks in x radius) increases the problem space, because most likely not all of those chunks have been loaded before. So brute forcing it increases the amount of data you must download.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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Post by charcircuit »

lanyard-textile wrote: post #11

For those who don't know: 2b2t is a famous minecraft server known for its true "anarchy" configuration. You can do absolutely anything on it. Modded client, x-raying, item duplication. There are no area protections. PvP enabled. It is difficult to leave spawn :)

>You can do absolutely anything on it.

As long as that anything doesn't consist of putting anything bad in chat or a sign such as a cuss word like "shit" or building a build or map art that someone may find offensive.

If you want to do absolutely anything you need to find a different server.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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Post by chadgpt3 »

lunar_rover wrote: post #54
MattCruikshank wrote: post #16

I'm so continuously confused why Minecraft doesn't have a show-off mode where a team of people can build something, and then someone else can spectate it, without causing undue server load. I should be able to give you a URL to some location, and when you click it, it opens up Minecraft, streams the blocks, and you're viewing it. minecraft://server/loc?w=0&x=0&y=0&z=0 w is the overworld, nether, end, etc. And if you…

> I'm so continuously confused why Minecraft doesn't have a show-off mode where a team of people can build something, and then someone else can spectate it, without causing undue server load. You'll be confused by Minecraft in general then. Mojang's core team seems like they never changed a bit in all these years despite becoming a billion dollar studio, for better or for worse. Last time I played it, mods can still…

They actually added a lot of indirection to the code soon after being acquired. Instead of an array containing the number 1 (meaning dirt) it now contains a pointer to an object with a string name and a hashmap of properties. Instead of drawing a cube in code, it's loaded from an interpreted DSL - all possible calls to that DSL are fixated at load time. The chunk generation process creates and executes a graph of micro-tasks which forms that weird pixel map you see when creating or loading the world. It transitions each chunk through about 15 different states on the way from nonexistent to fully loaded.

They used to talk about wanting to store block update relationships to prevent BUD (block update detector) behavior. I didn't like it at the time, but from a certain perspective it would have been an improvement. Instead they spent their complexity points on pointless memory waste.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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Post by chadgpt3 »

2001zhaozhao wrote: post #66
MattCruikshank wrote: post #16

I'm so continuously confused why Minecraft doesn't have a show-off mode where a team of people can build something, and then someone else can spectate it, without causing undue server load. I should be able to give you a URL to some location, and when you click it, it opens up Minecraft, streams the blocks, and you're viewing it. minecraft://server/loc?w=0&x=0&y=0&z=0 w is the overworld, nether, end, etc. And if you…

I have a Minecraft-compatible game engine and it'd be an awesome project to host a copy of this world that people can fly around in if there's no legal issues.

If you seek legal issues you will find - if someone reproduced a copyrighted work in this world then you could technically be sued for copying it. How likely do you think it is though?
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