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PS3 Emulator Devs Politely Ask That People Stop Flooding It with AI PRs

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Re: PS3 Emulator Devs Politely Ask That People Stop Flooding It with AI PRs

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Post by MBCook »

Panzer04 wrote: post #12
nlh wrote: post #10

I’ve read so many stories like this that I’ve actually gotten scared of making PRs open source projects. There’s one in particular where a feature I really wanted didn’t exist, so I forked and had Codex 5.5 assist with building the feature on my local version. It works perfectly. My life has been improved in being able to have this feature now. Normally I’d want to share it back with the community so others can benef…

If you're upfront about the provenance and amount of effort that went into it, is there really a problem? I feel like the issue is people contributing code they don't understand and presenting it as if they do.

Quite possibly never tested, of maybe only tested their problem and not if it broke anything else.

Re: PS3 Emulator Devs Politely Ask That People Stop Flooding It with AI PRs

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Post by bonesss »

x-complexity wrote: post #58
greenknight wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thats the thing, what if the codebases had CLAUDE.md / AGENTS.md files, which clearly dictated that A) tests need to pass B) anything you write needs tests C) the code quality must adhere to these standards etc.etc.... Helping the LLMs that people Vibe code with, produce better quality results. By not having these in place, it means people who want to help out, cant. because htey dont understand whats going on. addin…

> Should the barrier of entry be someone who knows how to code? or should the barrier of entry be someone who is motivated to help with open-source software. The motivation to help the OSS project should also come with the obligation to learn how the software operates, at least on a conceptual level. The desire to help does not grant people the pass to sledgehammer their way into adding in a feature.

If someone can’t write their own Agent.md for a project how are they going to validate the auto-completed text?

This strikes me as the ideal LLM first contribution/PR, a file explaining the projects standards and testing and structure.

Re: PS3 Emulator Devs Politely Ask That People Stop Flooding It with AI PRs

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Post by MBCook »

ls612 wrote: post #32

I’m hopeful that in a year or so the models will be good enough to help productively with emulator development and that you will see a similar shift to these PRs that you did with security this spring.

Will they get there? They rely so much on existing content.

But in such a niche area where the documentation or other solutions often flat out don’t exist how are they supposed to get better through training?

Re: PS3 Emulator Devs Politely Ask That People Stop Flooding It with AI PRs

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Post by sitkack »

NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #27
saagarjha wrote: post #2

The emulation space is particularly bad about this because there are a lot of semi-technical and "well meaning" users who will do anything to get their games to play better and AI gives them a way to make it seem like they are doing something useful, without being able to judge the quality of the output they are producing. One of the projects I work on recently had a guy drop by and explain that he wanted to use Clau…

Over the last month, I've been using Claude to assist in some things that were at the edge of my ability (or maybe just a hair's breadth beyond it). I've added features to open source projects that everyone's been waiting years for. I always fork it telling myself that I want to be able to submit PRs, but really I'm just making the changes for myself, since I don't even have the nerve to show it off. If these people…

You could use your changes to show that a feature is useful, but not do a PR. The specific code is no longer that important.

Re: PS3 Emulator Devs Politely Ask That People Stop Flooding It with AI PRs

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Post by egypturnash »

greenknight wrote: post #19
_JoRo wrote: post #6

I'm curious what percentage of PRs are just the AI blindly writing code and submitting a PR without testing, and which have at least been locally tested to some degree. Any OS maintainers have any insights on this?

Thats the thing, what if the codebases had CLAUDE.md / AGENTS.md files, which clearly dictated that A) tests need to pass B) anything you write needs tests C) the code quality must adhere to these standards etc.etc.... Helping the LLMs that people Vibe code with, produce better quality results. By not having these in place, it means people who want to help out, cant. because htey dont understand whats going on. addin…

How about claude.md/agents.md files that just say "Don't".

Re: PS3 Emulator Devs Politely Ask That People Stop Flooding It with AI PRs

#67

Post by Groxx »

perching_aix wrote: post #46
lobf wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Private torrent trackers apparently do this, and have done so for years.

They're sarcastically describing web-of-trust: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust Why are they doing that (i.e. being sarcastic)? Who knows.

Because it's by far the dominant strategy for distributed trust-ranking systems out there, with decades of research around it. Might as well look at the forest when realizing that it'd be nice if trees existed.

And I don't think anyone actually trusts any major actor to verify anything, so a fully centralized system is likely out. Otherwise people would be hype about WorldCoin, instead of recognizing it for the stupendously malicious grift that it is.

Re: PS3 Emulator Devs Politely Ask That People Stop Flooding It with AI PRs

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Post by x-complexity »

bonesss wrote: post #62
x-complexity wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Should the barrier of entry be someone who knows how to code? or should the barrier of entry be someone who is motivated to help with open-source software. The motivation to help the OSS project should also come with the obligation to learn how the software operates, at least on a conceptual level. The desire to help does not grant people the pass to sledgehammer their way into adding in a feature.

If someone can’t write their own Agent.md for a project how are they going to validate the auto-completed text? This strikes me as the ideal LLM first contribution/PR, a file explaining the projects standards and testing and structure.

> If someone can’t write their own Agent.md for a project how are they going to validate the auto-completed text?

> This strikes me as the ideal LLM first contribution/PR, a file explaining the projects standards and testing and structure.

Why should the project maintainers write such a file, when the info already exists within the README? It is duplicated work at best, and a definitive sign of the incapabilities of the agent to properly parse the project's contribution guidelines.

https://github.com/RPCS3/rpcs3/blob/master/README.md#contrib...

https://github.com/RPCS3/rpcs3/wiki/Coding-Style

https://github.com/RPCS3/rpcs3/wiki/Developer-Information

Re: PS3 Emulator Devs Politely Ask That People Stop Flooding It with AI PRs

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Post by perching_aix »

Groxx wrote: post #67
perching_aix wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're sarcastically describing web-of-trust: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust Why are they doing that (i.e. being sarcastic)? Who knows.

Because it's by far the dominant strategy for distributed trust-ranking systems out there, with decades of research around it. Might as well look at the forest when realizing that it'd be nice if trees existed. And I don't think anyone actually trusts any major actor to verify anything, so a fully centralized system is likely out. Otherwise people would be hype about WorldCoin, instead of recognizing it for the stupe…

> Might as well look at the forest when realizing that it'd be nice if trees existed.

Curse of knowledge much?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_knowledge

Re: PS3 Emulator Devs Politely Ask That People Stop Flooding It with AI PRs

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Post by Groxx »

perching_aix wrote: post #69
Groxx wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it's by far the dominant strategy for distributed trust-ranking systems out there, with decades of research around it. Might as well look at the forest when realizing that it'd be nice if trees existed. And I don't think anyone actually trusts any major actor to verify anything, so a fully centralized system is likely out. Otherwise people would be hype about WorldCoin, instead of recognizing it for the stupe…

> Might as well look at the forest when realizing that it'd be nice if trees existed. Curse of knowledge much? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_knowledge

Only if you're one of today's 10,000: https://xkcd.com/1053/
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