the entire economy of California being dependent on how Iran is feeling on a given day is crazy work
The US is an exporter of oil, so no US state will run out. However, you do pay the market price.
California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply
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#62the entire economy of California being dependent on how Iran is feeling on a given day is crazy work
The US is an exporter of oil, so no US state will run out. However, you do pay the market price.
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#63I'm a bit perplexed on this one-- Yes, we refine our own blend of gasoline, but it's based on market oil -- nothing about the war we started with Iran impacts our domestic refining capability. Also, oil takes longer to get from Iran to the west coast than to the east coast. Shouldn't the east coast be the first to notice decreased shipments, because the west coast essentially has a stock still in transit for longer?…
CA’s requirement that it gets its own blend of gas is combined with how its openly hostile towards its ever decreasing refineries and that it is impossible for a new refinery to ever open makes it’s supplies absurdly limited
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#64What this article fails to mention is that there are also a record number of empty tankers routed to the US refineries right now, with the intention of shifting still-relatively cheap US oil products to overseas markets where the prices are already much higher and shortages have already hit. The effects of the Iran war on the US economy will really start to kick in over the next several months.
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah especially given that California is a leader in renewable energy sources.
Renewables is for electricity. Oil is used for a lot of things that electricity can't replace, or not yet
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#66What this article fails to mention is that there are also a record number of empty tankers routed to the US refineries right now, with the intention of shifting still-relatively cheap US oil products to overseas markets where the prices are already much higher and shortages have already hit. The effects of the Iran war on the US economy will really start to kick in over the next several months.
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#67What this article fails to mention is that there are also a record number of empty tankers routed to the US refineries right now, with the intention of shifting still-relatively cheap US oil products to overseas markets where the prices are already much higher and shortages have already hit. The effects of the Iran war on the US economy will really start to kick in over the next several months.
In such a situation - especially heading into the midterms - an export ban may be increasingly probable.
Re: California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply
#68What this article fails to mention is that there are also a record number of empty tankers routed to the US refineries right now, with the intention of shifting still-relatively cheap US oil products to overseas markets where the prices are already much higher and shortages have already hit. The effects of the Iran war on the US economy will really start to kick in over the next several months.
In such a situation - especially heading into the midterms - an export ban may be increasingly probable.
We produce more oil than we use, but we can’t refine it all.
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#69People will blame climate policy on this but this is evidence that we've failed to move off our fossil fuel dependency.
It is funny that propaganda has somehow convinced conservatives, people who used to idealize self reliance and independence from government dependencies, to move away from solar and EVs. A EV and a home solar setup with a large battery bank, is the ultimate in self reliance. I remember even 10 years ago you'd see the occasional right leaning homesteader talking about the benefits of being off grid with a solar setup.…
I think the propaganda would be whatever said we're all against it, that's untrue. We just want both, no gas bans.
Re: California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply
#70I'm a bit perplexed on this one-- Yes, we refine our own blend of gasoline, but it's based on market oil -- nothing about the war we started with Iran impacts our domestic refining capability. Also, oil takes longer to get from Iran to the west coast than to the east coast. Shouldn't the east coast be the first to notice decreased shipments, because the west coast essentially has a stock still in transit for longer?…
Per the article, the type of fuel needed by California standards is produced at refineries in India, South Korea and Washington.