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California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply

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Re: California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply

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Correct, he is the symptom of the problem created by himself.

The Iran nuclear deal rode off the back of Stuxnet and concessions were easier with that damage. The recent strikes with the B2 were largely ineffectual so well done.

Re: California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply

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I'm a bit perplexed on this one-- Yes, we refine our own blend of gasoline, but it's based on market oil -- nothing about the war we started with Iran impacts our domestic refining capability. Also, oil takes longer to get from Iran to the west coast than to the east coast. Shouldn't the east coast be the first to notice decreased shipments, because the west coast essentially has a stock still in transit for longer?…

Weirdly California doesn't get all of its gas from domestic refining.

https://timesofsandiego.com/state-region/2026/04/23/prices-c...

"California’s top foreign refinery supplier of gasoline and blendstocks this decade is Reliance Industries Ltd.’s Jamnagar refinery complex in western India. "

"More than 9 million barrels arrived via this loophole in 2025"

Now, that's a tiny fraction of the 320M barrels of gas used in CA annually, but anything that affects global oil shipments will be felt in California.

Re: California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply

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People will blame climate policy on this but this is evidence that we've failed to move off our fossil fuel dependency.

It is funny that propaganda has somehow convinced conservatives, people who used to idealize self reliance and independence from government dependencies, to move away from solar and EVs. A EV and a home solar setup with a large battery bank, is the ultimate in self reliance. I remember even 10 years ago you'd see the occasional right leaning homesteader talking about the benefits of being off grid with a solar setup.…

A bicycle and moderate fitness is the ultimate in self-reliance but you never heard them promoting that either.

Re: California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply

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I'm a bit perplexed on this one-- Yes, we refine our own blend of gasoline, but it's based on market oil -- nothing about the war we started with Iran impacts our domestic refining capability. Also, oil takes longer to get from Iran to the west coast than to the east coast. Shouldn't the east coast be the first to notice decreased shipments, because the west coast essentially has a stock still in transit for longer?…

CA’s requirement that it gets its own blend of gas is combined with how its openly hostile towards its ever decreasing refineries and that it is impossible for a new refinery to ever open makes it’s supplies absurdly limited

Everyone loves gas and hates refineries. It's a tough choice.

Re: California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply

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What this article fails to mention is that there are also a record number of empty tankers routed to the US refineries right now, with the intention of shifting still-relatively cheap US oil products to overseas markets where the prices are already much higher and shortages have already hit. The effects of the Iran war on the US economy will really start to kick in over the next several months.

Re: California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply

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Governments have gotten in the bad habit of acting like nothing will ever go wrong. Living paycheck-to-paycheck, so to speak. Cali not the only one suffering this fate. It doesnt matter if it's Trump's fault or not. Lets just say it is. Bad things happen. You have to be ready.

Surely an example of being ready would be to electrify everything?

The rest of the developed world is banning ICE car sales, meanwhile the US is scrapping its wind farms, because doing it trolls the left.

Re: California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply

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I'm a bit perplexed on this one-- Yes, we refine our own blend of gasoline, but it's based on market oil -- nothing about the war we started with Iran impacts our domestic refining capability. Also, oil takes longer to get from Iran to the west coast than to the east coast. Shouldn't the east coast be the first to notice decreased shipments, because the west coast essentially has a stock still in transit for longer?…

CA’s requirement that it gets its own blend of gas is combined with how its openly hostile towards its ever decreasing refineries and that it is impossible for a new refinery to ever open makes it’s supplies absurdly limited

People in LA need to breathe during the summer time. So yes we demand a blend that protects our residents. And the refiners are choosing to close refineries. They are not being compelled.

Re: California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply

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I’m surprised that only “18.9% of new car sales” in California are electric [1]. [1] https://www.energy.ca.gov/news/2026-01/california-surpasses-...

I assume people are worried about former "we have 12 years before doom" people, having all converted into "burn Teslas" people, destroying some of the best electric cars on the planet.

Re: California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply

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the entire economy of California being dependent on how Iran is feeling on a given day is crazy work

The US is an exporter of oil, so no US state will run out. However, you do pay the market price.

California is very poorly connected to the rest of the country in terms of pipelines https://www.bts.gov/sites/bts.dot.gov/files/2021-03/U.S.%20P...

Re: California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply

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Isn't 4-6 weeks about normal conditions? It feels like a large amount of slack for a modern JIT logistical system. Anymore enters strategic reserves territory.

Sure, but these aren't normal conditions. So that JIT amount is gonna rapidly become NJIT.
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