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Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

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Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

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Reminds me of Zed's setting { "disable_ai": true } [1] Glad it's an option be it for regulatory compliance, security, privacy, or any combination of the three. [1]: https://zed.dev/blog/disable-ai-features

Firefox also has a setting like this, although I think it's even nicer in that it makes everything (current and future) AI default to opt-out, but still lets you opt in to specific use cases if you want.

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

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Kinda rich coming from someone who doesn't even have a valid SSL cert on the website in their profile bio...

What does that have to do with anything?

He expects an absurd level of effort from other people to protect privacy when he isn't doing the bare minimum for what he actually does himself.

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

#63

Disabling internet connectivity disables lane keeping assistance. I wonder if this is a dark pattern to punish users who opt out or because they feel they need reports of crashes ahead to do it safely.

If you need lane keeping assistance you should just accept you need internet connectivity at all times like wtf cars didn’t always have that just drive straight.

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

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> limit or disable certain functionality in the vehicle: ... over-the-air updates, which provide new ... safety enhancements ... I wonder what happens if you disable the e-SIM (in the US) and then a safety recall appears via software update - do dealers have any way to update control modules besides OTA? This is a huge unresolved issue with EVs IMO; ICE cars are required to provide emissions-relevant updates over sof…

> I wonder what happens if you disable the e-SIM (in the US) and then a safety recall appears via software update - do dealers have any way to update control modules besides OTA? I would assume so. Even on older cars, service techs can typically manually push firmware updates over the OBD-II / J2534 port. Rivian's OBD-II port actually hides an Ethernet signal inside of it - so the interface is certainly there. Fun fa…

> Rivian's OBD-II port actually hides an Ethernet signal inside of it - so the interface is certainly there.

Nice. This is really normal now, for what it's worth - all of the European makes have moved this direction as well (DoIP over ENET). There's shockingly little documentation about Rivian online, though, probably because emissions regulation doesn't mandate it.

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My assumption would be that lane keeping would be about staying in the lines ahead of you, not knowing which lanes are available on the route. Available lanes can change in real-time due to all kinds of reasons.

I think the term has been used for various capabilities over the years. My friend's 10-year-old Toyota will chirp annoyingly if you drift over a lane line but that's all it does. It doesn't have any ability to steer the car back into the center of the lane. Is that "lane keeping"?

No, that's "lane departure warning"

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

#66
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>For non-Canadian vehicles, you may reach out to Rivian Service to request that we disable the eSIM card in the vehicle through a service appointment. Why is that? I really don't want to bring it to the shop to turn off the radio. In Canada it's a toggle in the settings. Is there Canadian legislation mandating this or something?

Yes, no credit if I have to ask someone to turn it off for me. It could obviously be a toggle here in the US.

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

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It was expensive but every day I am happy with my Rivian purchase. Great to have a vehicle where the actual users are obviously thought of (contra for instance the cybertruck where some variety 'cool factor' was obviously prioritized, resulting in finger crunching hoods and such).

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Na it's great stay broke

Edit: and mad

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

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Related: Mozilla did a review of different cars for privacy: ( https://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/privacynotincluded/arti... ) >Nissan earned its second-to-last spot for collecting some of the creepiest categories of data we have ever seen. [Their privacy policy] includes your “sexual activity.” Not to be out done, Kia also mentions they can collect information about your “sex life” in their privacy policy. Oh, and…

Ignoring the fact that it's absolutely unhinged and bonkers to include that in the first place, I don't even understand how they could possibly ever get any information about that. Are they using LLMs to generate these policies without review? Or are there really lawyers out there who thought this was pertinent and important to include?

Any car that can record audio in the cabin could have information about your sexual activity. Could also argue it based on location data.

Some laws require discussing very specific lists of categories of information they might have. I'm guessing this is a completionist CYA lawyer accounting for this.

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

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It was expensive but every day I am happy with my Rivian purchase. Great to have a vehicle where the actual users are obviously thought of (contra for instance the cybertruck where some variety 'cool factor' was obviously prioritized, resulting in finger crunching hoods and such).

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At least come up with your own thought instead of repeating someone else's thinking
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