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Re: The disturbing white paper Red Hat is trying to erase from the internet

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Post by nomel »

text0404 wrote: post #43
nomel wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a popular conspiracy theory, without evidence, and without any perspective on any information that intelligence had. Using civilians as shields is well documented/known for Iranian military and groups they sponsor. For example, hospitals [1]. Shitty, but possibly a valid military target. [1] https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8666/yemen-human-shields

> Gatestone Institute is an American far-right think tank known for publishing anti-Muslim articles. > The organization has attracted attention for publishing false or inaccurate articles, some of which were shared widely. > The Gatestone Institute has been frequently described as anti-Muslim, regularly publishes false reports to stoke anti-Muslim fears, and has published false stories pertaining to Muslims and Islam…

There are MANY examples of Iranian backed terrorist organizations doing this (which I thought might be too indirect), but here's something more recent [1].

Regardless, left leaning news reports things that make them look good and the opposition look bad. Right leaning news reports things that make them look good and the opposition look bad. Both are needed to find truth because they're all biased for profit corporate entities owned by 6 different billionaires that will only report what's convenient for that bias.

And no, I have no trust in the claims of the Iranian government. Do you? Who do you believe does?

[1] https://www.msn.com/en-in/politics/international-relations/i...

Re: The disturbing white paper Red Hat is trying to erase from the internet

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Post by scotty79 »

mmh0000 wrote: post #47

It's weird to me that this is "suddenly" an issue. It has been known for decades that Red Hat Inc's largest customer is the U.S. Army[1]. It's a very large part of the reason why Red Hat took over development of SELinux and made it on by default in their distros. And the Army isn't exactly known for handing out cupcakes... [1] https://unixdigest.com/includes/files/Army-RedHat-Whitepaper... [1] "Red Hat’s partnership…

Suddenly war and associated killings stopped being theoretical. Bunch of people that used to be as dangerous (in practice) to civilization as paintballers started actually using real weapons on real people.

Military in peacetime is cosplaying (larping?) war. So there's little resistance to aiding them in their silliness. When they actually start to bomb people, it's another story.

They deal was, we aid you in your pretend-wars, but you don't start actual ones. This deal has been violated and people don't abide by that.

Re: The disturbing white paper Red Hat is trying to erase from the internet

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Post by tastyface »

Sabinus wrote: post #60
tastyface wrote: post #41

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Indeed. Despite their many glaring flaws neither the Israeli nor American governments are fascist so the former Redhatter is right in that you should discount the associated opinion when encountering that phrase.

Given that a number of professors on authoritarian politics staunchly disagree with that assessment, I will trust them and their years of research experience over the unwarranted confidence of some HN anon.

Re: The disturbing white paper Red Hat is trying to erase from the internet

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Post by tastyface »

tjwebbnorfolk wrote: post #54
tastyface wrote: post #42

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This directly contradicts most religions, which the people with the biggest weapons somehow claim to follow.

I must be missing your point. You're talking about a thought / belief framework. I'm talking about how the world actually works. In any fight between theory and practice, practice always wins.

The world largely moves forward through cooperarion, then regularly regresses through violence.

I have no desire whatsoever to undermine and bludgeon my neighbors in order to come out on top. Anyone who feels this way should probably be institutionalized for the safety of society at large.

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Post by jnwatson »

Qem wrote: post #5
nickdothutton wrote: post #3

Better to have smart bombs than dumb ones. Or rather, better to have 1 smart bomb than 1000 dumb ones spread across an entire city in order to pick off the particular building, vehicle, or person you want.

Specially AI Hallucination bombs, that hit a park named "Police Park", because it thinks it's killing policemen[1], or a children school with Shahed in the name[2], because it thinks It has something to do with drones. [1] https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/2029575052535173364 [2] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/6/elementary-school-in...

It is completely unfounded speculation that AI was involved.

Re: The disturbing white paper Red Hat is trying to erase from the internet

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Post by whattheheckheck »

lostlogin wrote: post #45
shwaj wrote: post #35

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In fact, it didn’t. Trump continued to make “no new wars” a plank of his platform. Some of his base will follow wherever he goes, but he would not have been elected without those who supported him on the basis of this (broken) promise.

Trump said this wasn’t a war. Americans voted for this confrontational, disrespectful, and chaotic way of governing.

And the 36% that sat out for reasons also contributed.

Use vote.gov to find out if youre registered

Use 5calls.org to find out about top issues to call your reps about.

Use govtrack.us to find out about what's going on.

If there was a github.com view of the govt agenda it'd be easy for more people to comment on things. At all scales of governance

Re: The disturbing white paper Red Hat is trying to erase from the internet

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Post by whattheheckheck »

xg15 wrote: post #46
nickdothutton wrote: post #3

Better to have smart bombs than dumb ones. Or rather, better to have 1 smart bomb than 1000 dumb ones spread across an entire city in order to pick off the particular building, vehicle, or person you want.

The reality looks more like the worst of both worlds to me. If you genuinely needed only a handful of "surgical strikes", thete would be no need to "compress the kill cycle". What we see in Gaza, Lebanon and Iran looks more like "smart carpet bombing": Some AI system generates a continuous stream of "targets" from sensor and intelligence data, according to whatever criteria political leadership defines and according…

Its the plot of Captain American 2 with those 3 aircraft carriers at the end

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Post by palmotea »

thayne wrote: post #27
eqvinox wrote: post #12

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There's also a chasm of (non-)accountability. You or your subordinates target an elementary school: that's a war crime. Your "battlefield AI" targets an elementary school: software bug, it happens, can't be helped.

This isn't even that new. Part of the motivation for building autonomous nuclear response programs during the cold war was specifically to remove accountability, and guilt, from human operators. But AI does bring it to a new level.

> Part of the motivation for building autonomous nuclear response programs during the cold war was specifically to remove accountability, and guilt, from human operators.

Details please. Because I can see the reality being most likely an attempt to avoid conflict by solidifying MAD, by trying to prevent a human from vetoing a second-strike.

Re: The disturbing white paper Red Hat is trying to erase from the internet

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Post by razingeden »

jnwatson wrote: post #66

We all have to face the reality that people are going to use our software in ways we don't like. Any productivity improvement software in the wrong hands could make doing bad things more efficient.

They don’t like it so much they wrote a gushing press release bragging about it!
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