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Re: The disturbing white paper Red Hat is trying to erase from the internet

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Post by whoahwio »

nickdothutton wrote: post #3

Better to have smart bombs than dumb ones. Or rather, better to have 1 smart bomb than 1000 dumb ones spread across an entire city in order to pick off the particular building, vehicle, or person you want.

That “smart” vs “dumb” distinction doesn’t apply here though. What is discussed has nothing to do with the ability to physically land a bomb in a precise location, that problem seems to be solved reasonably well already. “Smart” in this case has more to do with using ML/LLM to select a target.

Re: The disturbing white paper Red Hat is trying to erase from the internet

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Post by eqvinox »

Qem wrote: post #5
nickdothutton wrote: post #3

Better to have smart bombs than dumb ones. Or rather, better to have 1 smart bomb than 1000 dumb ones spread across an entire city in order to pick off the particular building, vehicle, or person you want.

Specially AI Hallucination bombs, that hit a park named "Police Park", because it thinks it's killing policemen[1], or a children school with Shahed in the name[2], because it thinks It has something to do with drones. [1] https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/2029575052535173364 [2] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/6/elementary-school-in...

There's also a chasm of (non-)accountability.

You or your subordinates target an elementary school: that's a war crime.

Your "battlefield AI" targets an elementary school: software bug, it happens, can't be helped.

Re: The disturbing white paper Red Hat is trying to erase from the internet

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Post by DonHopkins »

nickdothutton wrote: post #3

Better to have smart bombs than dumb ones. Or rather, better to have 1 smart bomb than 1000 dumb ones spread across an entire city in order to pick off the particular building, vehicle, or person you want.

Smart bombs are no good if they are directed by a dumb AI targeting system, a dumb alcoholic accelerationist religious fanatic Secretary of War, or a dumb narcissistic genocidal pedophile President.

Re: The disturbing white paper Red Hat is trying to erase from the internet

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Post by SoftTalker »

> I don’t think there’s something inherently wrong with working together with your nation’s military or defense companies, but that all hinges on what, exactly, said military is doing and how those defense companies’ products are being used. The focus should be on national defense, aid during disasters, and responding to the legitimate requests of sovereign, democratic nations to come to their defense

The core purpose of a military is to destroy things and kill people, and the world is controlled by the people who can do that better than others. You can put all the "defense" and "disaster aid" lipstick on that you like but that doesn't change what they train for and what their real purpose is.

Re: The disturbing white paper Red Hat is trying to erase from the internet

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Post by breppp »

Qem wrote: post #5
nickdothutton wrote: post #3

Better to have smart bombs than dumb ones. Or rather, better to have 1 smart bomb than 1000 dumb ones spread across an entire city in order to pick off the particular building, vehicle, or person you want.

Specially AI Hallucination bombs, that hit a park named "Police Park", because it thinks it's killing policemen[1], or a children school with Shahed in the name[2], because it thinks It has something to do with drones. [1] https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/2029575052535173364 [2] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/6/elementary-school-in...

Your links talk about the places that were bombed, but I don't see anything apart for conjecture that this was the product of AI targeting.

Also this is a vast underestimate of the ability of organizations that were able to locate most of Iranian leadership throughout the war in their hiding places, but suddenly their Farsi is so bad they need a twitter account to tell them this is a Park

Re: The disturbing white paper Red Hat is trying to erase from the internet

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Post by ThrowawayR2 »

Qem wrote: post #4

> With that in mind, it seems Red Hat, owned by IBM, is desperately trying to scrub a certain white paper from the internet. Titled “Compress the kill cycle with Red Hat Device Edge”, the 2024 white paper details how Red Hat’s products and technologies can make it easier and faster to, well, kill people. It appears IBM learned no lessons after WWII: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust That book will n…

IBM suffered no consequences for any of that so there were no lessons to learn. IBM dominated the computer industry from the 1960s-1980s ("Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM") and was a more brutal monopolist than any of the FANGAM corporations.

Re: The disturbing white paper Red Hat is trying to erase from the internet

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Post by lostlogin »

DonHopkins wrote: post #13
nickdothutton wrote: post #3

Better to have smart bombs than dumb ones. Or rather, better to have 1 smart bomb than 1000 dumb ones spread across an entire city in order to pick off the particular building, vehicle, or person you want.

Smart bombs are no good if they are directed by a dumb AI targeting system, a dumb alcoholic accelerationist religious fanatic Secretary of War, or a dumb narcissistic genocidal pedophile President.

There is one more layer - America voted for this.

Re: The disturbing white paper Red Hat is trying to erase from the internet

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Post by HumanOstrich »

philipwhiuk wrote: post #17

I dunno that 'removes from their website' is sufficient for 'trying to erase from the Internet' Can we rename this "RedHat removes paper from website on using their software to 'shrink the kill-chain'"

They still might pull an Anthropic move and send a C&D or DMCA to archive.org.
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