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The underrated benefits of always having oatmeal at lunch

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Re: The underrated benefits of always having oatmeal at lunch

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Oats are about 15% calories from protein, 85% from carbs. High protein foods would be: egg white (90% calories from protein), chicken breast (80%), lean fish such as cod (90%) medium protein foods would be: fatty beef (e.g. ribeye) 50% calories from protein, cottage cheese (60%), fatty fish like salmon (55% calories from protein), whole eggs (fatty yolk plus white, 36% calories from protein), soybeans (36-40%) low pr…

I assume they mean non animal sources of protein. Of course it'll be hard for plant based foods to compete. Out of non animal sources, oatmeal is pretty good, especially as a cheap staple food no less

The human body does not grade on a curve. There is as much protein in oatmeal per calorie as there is in red bell peppers and obviously people don't cite red bell peppers as a high protein food, this is true even if for some reason they really prefer to eat red bell peppers.

If you want something from non-animal sources, go for mushrooms and soybeans, which have twice as much protein per calorie as oats. Mushrooms are an under-rated source of protein, as is cottage cheese.

Re: The underrated benefits of always having oatmeal at lunch

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You just googled or asked a chatbot to find you an article and haven't actually read it, have you? #1 literally says > For people with healthy kidneys, higher protein intake is generally safe. #2 addresses the issues of some specific diets ("very-low-carb or ketogenic diets") that "may be low in fiber-rich carbohydrates". I did not advocate for "very-low-carb or ketogenic diets". Also, it doesn't say anything about p…

No, I'm interested in nutrition, I backed up the risks with a link. Complex carbs and simple carbs are not the same (your original dismissal). Fiber is important for everyone, there's studies that show too little fiber is the cause of a lot of nutrition issues (possibly including IBS, which is a strange relation). Too much protein is not healthy and has risks (despite your unbacked claim). Protein rich unprocessed fo…

> I backed up the risks with a link.

The problem is that your link doesn't really backs up your claims. #1 and #5 deal exclusively with people with various kidney conditions. #2, #3, #4 and #6 deal with issues that are only tangentially related to consuming too much protein.

All research that claims that eating too much protein is harmful is either about people with kidney disease or explores really far-fetched theoretical scenarios.

While harms of consuming too little protein are obvious and self-evident. Every tissue of your body constantly regenerates itself. Generating new tissue is impossible without protein, because protein is what it is made of.

> your unbacked claim

Sure, let's have some links: https://www.uclahealth.org/news/article/are-you-getting-enou...

> “We find most adults are not quite getting enough protein,” says Michael Garcia, MD, a UCLA Health clinical nutritionist.

> When you eat that protein also matters — the protein your body needs must be spread throughout the day. “We’re able to store certain nutrients, but we can't do the same thing with protein,” Dr. Garcia says. “And our bodies can only use so much protein in a sitting and a day.”

> “The recommended amount is really the absolute minimum we need to not fall into a deficient state.”

According to a link[0] provided by another commenter[1] in another subthread of this thread, maximum protein intake is about 2.5 times higher than the recommended protein intake (which is really just "the absolute minimum we need to not fall into a deficient state").

And since most people, who don't consciously control their diets, are very likely to eat closer to the lower bound, I think that telling people to "just eat more protein" is more likely to bring them health benefits than telling people to "just eat less protein"

Which is what TFA effectively does: it tells people about "underrated benefits" of replacing one meal a day by a meal that barely has any protein, which is equivalent to telling people to "just eat less protein".

I think that this article is potentially harmful to people who don't know any better, and I'm very surprised that the issue of reducing protein intake is neither addressed by TFA nor by other commenters. And that my attempt at addressing it receives so much pushback.

[0] https://www.health.harvard.edu/diet-and-nutrition/when-it-co...

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47654617

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