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The underrated benefits of always having oatmeal at lunch

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Re: The underrated benefits of always having oatmeal at lunch

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> Unprocessed fiber-containing carbs are fairly healthy. I never said that oats are unhealthy or that carbs are unhealthy. I said that a meal without protein is not the best idea. My critique was not directed at a particular food item but at the meal composition as a whole. > I get protein in lunch and dinner, and I don't need my oatmeal breakfast to be protein heavy. TFA suggests to eat oatmeal for lunch. > Oatmeal…

> There is basically no downsides to eating too much protein A more nuanced opinion from the Harvard Medical School: "Can too much protein be harmful? The short answer is yes. As with most things in life, there can be too much of a good thing and if you eat too much protein, there may be a price to pay. For example, people that eat very high protein diets have a higher risk of kidney stones. Also a high protein diet…

> A weight-based recommended daily allowance (RDA) of 0.8 grams per kilogram of body weight.

> However, for the average healthy person (who is not an elite athlete or heavily involved in body building) it's probably best to keep total protein intake to no more than 2 gm/kg of ideal body weight

So, you can increase your protein intake about 2.5 times above RDA without any issues? I would call this "basically no downsides".

Re: The underrated benefits of always having oatmeal at lunch

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Unfortunately as a diabetic, oatmeal is one of the most difficult foods to control. I question how healthy it is given how high and how fast my blood sugar spikes after eating some. Oats are converted to glucose very quickly it seems, and that's without all the added sugar OP recommends. I won't dispute that it's delicious though.

When using a continuous glucose monitor I found that oatmeal would spike my glucose except when I would add protein powder and chia seeds.

Re: The underrated benefits of always having oatmeal at lunch

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post #13

Unfortunately as a diabetic, oatmeal is one of the most difficult foods to control. I question how healthy it is given how high and how fast my blood sugar spikes after eating some. Oats are converted to glucose very quickly it seems, and that's without all the added sugar OP recommends. I won't dispute that it's delicious though.

When using a continuous glucose monitor I found that oatmeal would spike my glucose except when I would add protein powder and chia seeds.

Oats are already one of the most protein dense foods

Re: The underrated benefits of always having oatmeal at lunch

#54

Oats are just carbs. > You can enrich it with bananas or goji berries for extra nutrients. "extra nutrients" are more carbs. > it’s healthy I don't think that a whole meal without a good protein source can be considered "healthy"

Oats are 1/8 protein. Dismissing "extra nutrients" as just more carbs is how you get scurvy.

Re: The underrated benefits of always having oatmeal at lunch

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post #53

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When using a continuous glucose monitor I found that oatmeal would spike my glucose except when I would add protein powder and chia seeds.

Oats are already one of the most protein dense foods

Oats are about 15% calories from protein, 85% from carbs.

High protein foods would be: egg white (90% calories from protein), chicken breast (80%), lean fish such as cod (90%)

medium protein foods would be: fatty beef (e.g. ribeye) 50% calories from protein, cottage cheese (60%), fatty fish like salmon (55% calories from protein), whole eggs (fatty yolk plus white, 36% calories from protein), soybeans (36-40%)

low protein foods would be: lentils (30%), 2% milk (26% calories from protein), lima beans (22% protein), parmesan cheese (30%), summer squash/zuccini (24% protein), most mushrooms (25-30%).

very-low protein foods would be: rice (9%), onions (9%), winter squash (10%), red bell peppers (12-13%), sweet corn (12%)

Here, by very low, I mean if you try to get your protein from these sources, you will end up obese unless you expend extreme amounts of energy exercising or maintain serious protein deficiencies (muscle loss). You can get decent amount of protein if you are downing lentils, whole milk, parmesan, soybeans, salmon, etc, e.g. you don't need to eat high protein foods, but this is about the bottom level to get reasonable protein while maintaining reasonable weight unless you are a day laborer or expending massive calories.

At only 15% calories from protein (the rest being carbs), oats would be not much better than corn in terms of protein content per calorie consumed. Nothing wrong with eating some corn on the cob, but that's not gonna be a major source of protein for anyone unless you are willing to consume huge amounts of carbs.

Re: The underrated benefits of always having oatmeal at lunch

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> with my girlfriend's husband's dad With your what now?

My girlfriend is married but they been split up for like 10+ years, just never got divorced. We're all friends and it's all good.

I appreciate the world building in this oatmeal comment

Re: The underrated benefits of always having oatmeal at lunch

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post #53

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When using a continuous glucose monitor I found that oatmeal would spike my glucose except when I would add protein powder and chia seeds.

Oats are already one of the most protein dense foods

If you wouldn’t mind indulging me, I’m very curious how you came to be of that opinion

Re: The underrated benefits of always having oatmeal at lunch

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post #53

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Oats are already one of the most protein dense foods

Oats are about 15% calories from protein, 85% from carbs. High protein foods would be: egg white (90% calories from protein), chicken breast (80%), lean fish such as cod (90%) medium protein foods would be: fatty beef (e.g. ribeye) 50% calories from protein, cottage cheese (60%), fatty fish like salmon (55% calories from protein), whole eggs (fatty yolk plus white, 36% calories from protein), soybeans (36-40%) low pr…

I assume they mean non animal sources of protein. Of course it'll be hard for plant based foods to compete. Out of non animal sources, oatmeal is pretty good, especially as a cheap staple food no less

Re: The underrated benefits of always having oatmeal at lunch

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Use thicker oats. Do not add sugar or any sweet milk. Also, if you sprinkle ceylon cinnamon and fenugreek powders, the impact will be less. For more effect, I used to microwave it in black tea instead of water. Heating and then cooling oatmeal should allow it to form some resistant starch of type RS3. This will spike glucose a little less, but it causes much more gas. Other effective hacks are gymnema, berberine, thi…

I used oatmeal with water and it has always spiked - every body is different. How much less did it spike when you used fenugreek ? What other blood sugar spike hack do you use? Others that I know of — frozen bread changes starch, or extra virgin oil and almond butter are high in oleic acid so with the right amount it won’t spike as much

I have now updated the parent comment with more hacks. As for a quantification, I don't have one. The only related metric I quantify is HbA1c that I measure at home every few months.

Re: The underrated benefits of always having oatmeal at lunch

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All the accompaniments suggested are sweet so I'll say something I've said before: oatmeal works fine with savory accompaniments. If it's made at the normal porridge-like thickness, any toppings or add-ins that work with Asian rice porridge recipes (congee, dakjuk, etc.) will work with it. If it's made with a very thick consistency, it can be treated similarly to mashed potatoes or polenta

Why are you all heating it?, eat it raw with milk unheated

As I recall, raw oats are not edible. All of the "raw" oats that you can buy are not actually raw, they are at least steamed.
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