Too bad Terry A. Davis is not around anymore. He would have been literally enraptured by LLMs.
Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies
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#62When you stop to think of it, historically people have told their secrets to the church, now they also tell them to AI. There is some kind of relation there, the power that people willingly give to an organization. The Ads are coming so I guess people will start to think about it a bit more.
for whatever merit it may achieve, concentrated attack upon religion fails to account for resultantly deprecated cultural aspects that are vital to continued functioning society, and this blind spot is not discussed often enough - in this case ,confession to a priest is significantly less evil than confession to sam altmans torture machine in the making
I am sorry if you read it as an attack on religion, it was an attack on big AI.
If religion sends or even needs to send data upstream is not part of my knowledge, but AI does. But church did have the best understanding of who is who in a local society and AI companies will use this data in a more concrete way. I just drew the parallel to get the gears spinning. I agree that the organized religion was crucial glue to society trough history.
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#64Btw pope is a math phd.
Imagine the pope being a man of science a couple of hundred years back... How much better the world could be.
They often were. A lot of history has been retold more in a way to fit contemporary narrative than to maintain historical accuracy. For instance Galileo. The typical tale is something like Galileo dared claim the Earth is not the center of the universe, the Church freaked out at the violation of dogma, shunned him, and he was lucky to escape with his life. In reality the Pope was one of Galileo's biggest supporters and patrons. But they disagreed on heliocentrism vs geocentricism.
The Pope encouraged Galileo to write a book about the issue and cover both sides in neutrality. Galileo did write a book, but was rather on the Asperger's side of social behavior, and decided to frame the geocentric position (which aligned with the Pope) as idiotic, defended by an idiot - named Simplicio no less, and presented weak and easily dismantled arguments. The Pope took it as a personal insult, which it was, and the rest is history.
And notably Galileo's theory was, in general, weak. Amongst many other issues he continued to assume perfectly circular orbits which threw everything else off and required endless epicycles and the like. So his theory was still very much in the domain of philosophy rather than observable/provable science or even a clear improvement, so he was just generally acting like an antagonistic ass to a person who had supported him endlessly. And as it turns out even the Pope is quite human.
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#66When you stop to think of it, historically people have told their secrets to the church, now they also tell them to AI. There is some kind of relation there, the power that people willingly give to an organization. The Ads are coming so I guess people will start to think about it a bit more.
To the best of my knowledge, traditional confessions have always been processed locally, not sent upstream¹. AFAICT, it is much harder to get a priest to reveal your confession than it is to get a log of your ChatGPT sessions. ¹) I first wrote "not sent to the cloud", but if God is all-knowing, records of all sins are already in the cloud, just not accessible by support staff.
> first wrote "not sent to the cloud", but if God is all-knowing, records of all sins are already in the cloud, just not accessible by support staff.
I heard there is a GDPR'esque Right of access(SAR) to see your records if you ask for it nicely in person.
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#67Too bad Terry A. Davis is not around anymore. He would have been literally enraptured by LLMs.
Or he would have vibe coded the second coming of Unix.
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
A lot of very bad things were historically done by men of science
"Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down? That's not my department!" says Wernher von Braun.
Even better is, 'I aim at the Stars! (but sometimes I hit London)'.
"I Aim at the Stars" was the name of a real biographical movie made about him in the 60s. It feels like that exact title had to have been chosen, at least partly, tongue in cheek.
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#69I wish the Catholic Church would use that approach more often.
Church in general has neutral stance towards AI. Pope himself rather negative.
On the other hand; the local parishes often love posting AI generated devotional pictures, and the laity loves it even more; and they look horrible.
I saw sooo many AI Marys.
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you considered that our very consciousness is supernatural?
I don’t necessarily disagree but how do you get to the conclusion?
Hm, how does one not get into that conclusion? Most everyone would agree we have the concept of "selfness", yet I don't think there's a scientific theory to explain how a set of physiochemical processes can have that endresult to an observer, any more than a computer has the idea of "me".