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Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Imagine the pope being a man of science a couple of hundred years back... How much better the world could be.

How much better? Every honest description of Catholic Church, as any institution of this size and history, needs to be very nuanced. One of such nuances is a fact that it was one of the main, and sometimes strictly main, supporters and drivers of education and scientific progress. Other such nuance is that it very often punished and persecuted attempts to bring education and scientific progress. Both views of the Chu…

No crusades for one populae example.

More advancements... No being opposed to actual enlightenment, because it doesn't sit well with the institution of power...

I am talking about a real man of science here of course, not some egoistic, smart person that needs to be constantly prove they are the smartest or else their frail ego will collapse... Which there are plenty of in academia and science.

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

#53
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine the pope being a man of science a couple of hundred years back... How much better the world could be.

How much better? Every honest description of Catholic Church, as any institution of this size and history, needs to be very nuanced. One of such nuances is a fact that it was one of the main, and sometimes strictly main, supporters and drivers of education and scientific progress. Other such nuance is that it very often punished and persecuted attempts to bring education and scientific progress. Both views of the Chu…

> Other such nuance is that it very often punished and persecuted attempts to bring education and scientific progress.

Often? Very rarely, and the motive was never to stop progress - it was side effect of something else.

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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post #38

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I genuinely don’t understand AI people anymore. Like the cognitive gap is so huge that I feel like I’m from another planet now. Im not religious, but automating religion is so absolutely meaningless that it boggles my mind. You could have a machine emit million of prayers up to heaven per second, but why would you? And despite what you think, most of us can tell apart AI generated content from the genuine thing. I am…

AI people are a cult as well. They simply follow (an)other god(s)... One of them clearly being Mammon.

> One of them clearly being Mammon.

Only one, and this doesn't apply only to AI grifters.

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

#55
post #29
post #19

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Imagine the pope being a man of science a couple of hundred years back... How much better the world could be.

A lot of very bad things were historically done by men of science

"Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down? That's not my department!" says Wernher von Braun.

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

#56
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No priest will feed sufficient context about their community into the context window - even if they were skilled enough to do so, unless the model was locally hosted, doing so would be a violation of their vows of silence. Good homilies are written with the particular community in mind. If it were more effective to write a homily for a generic public, the Vatican would have started publishing standard homilies long a…

This priest agrees with you, and has expressed concerns about mediocre homilies that don't speak to the concerns of the particular community: https://youtu.be/pgZXCPCATmc?si=FM4uj2owYBVK_8Mh

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

#57
post #48

No priest will feed sufficient context about their community into the context window - even if they were skilled enough to do so, unless the model was locally hosted, doing so would be a violation of their vows of silence. Good homilies are written with the particular community in mind. If it were more effective to write a homily for a generic public, the Vatican would have started publishing standard homilies long a…

No priest will feed sufficient context about their community into the context window

But they will try, and they'll share a lot of potentially private information in the process.

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much better? Every honest description of Catholic Church, as any institution of this size and history, needs to be very nuanced. One of such nuances is a fact that it was one of the main, and sometimes strictly main, supporters and drivers of education and scientific progress. Other such nuance is that it very often punished and persecuted attempts to bring education and scientific progress. Both views of the Chu…

No crusades for one populae example. More advancements... No being opposed to actual enlightenment, because it doesn't sit well with the institution of power... I am talking about a real man of science here of course, not some egoistic, smart person that needs to be constantly prove they are the smartest or else their frail ego will collapse... Which there are plenty of in academia and science.

But why man of science would avoid starting crusades?

Moral virtue has nothing to do with being a man of science, and many men of science lacked it completely.

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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From the Wikipedia page on the Catholic Church: "By means of Catholic charities and beyond, the Catholic Church is the largest non-government provider of education and health care in the world." Just yesterday I went to see a presentation of a priest appointed to a massive parish in the rural area of South Sudan, setting up schools and bringing in aid.

> the Catholic Church is the largest non-government provider of education and health care in the world. Hm. In germany Catholic day care is funded by the state ie taxes by over 90%. Military chaplains 100%. Would be surprised if the difference is bigger in schools and hospitals. I heard that in France there is an actual separation of church and state and as a result the church is rather poor.

Germany is the only country that does that.

In the rest of the world the church is poorer but is still a leading provider of education and healthcare, especially in poor countries.

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