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ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Post by shermantanktop »

GaryBluto wrote: post #34
phillipcarter wrote: post #3

The most maximally vindictive candidates are earning my votes in the coming election.

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I don't buy the 'both sides' POV except in the longest historical view. Right now it's just not true.

One team is a feckless collection of timid hesitators who is trying to defend a social welfare policy from 70 years ago, and the other team believes their volatile leader is infallible and will direct revenge at whatever they are pointed to by the latest 3am tweet.

It's just not the same.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Post by Ccecil »

daheza wrote: post #32
chaps wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

....cameras exist :)

True, cameras can be taken away or smashed after the fact destroying evidence. With my phone I can stream video to a cloud so that it can't be deleted. The ACLU used to have an app specifically for this but it seems to have been discontinued. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACLU_Mobile_Justice

I have an Eye-fi SD card which can send photos via wifi. Wouldn't be too hard to make a receiver that send from a raspi or something automatically.

Seems they are discontinued but there are other options that work similar such as "EZ Share"

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Post by potato3732842 »

baggy_trough wrote: post #58
embedding-shape wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Basically: if it has a modem in it, it can be used against you in some way. Phones, routers, cars, public signs, cameras. It's been so turbulent lately, that it's hard to register events that would have blown our minds if so many things didn't also happen around the same time. Remember when Israel made a bunch of pagers explode indiscriminately across Lebanon and Syria? So many things going on, one worse than the oth…

Indiscriminately?

They only discriminated to the extent to which the specific product they went after correlated with the people they actually wanted to kill.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Post by cdrnsf »

newfriend wrote: post #57
cdrnsf wrote: post #2

Dissolve ICE. Prosecute and/or disallow all ERO agents from any future public service positions.

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Immigration can be enforced without murdering, gassing and viciously assaulting bystanders. Never mind the violations of human rights (like sending deportees to hellholes like CECOT), lying about citizen observers and continually having lawsuits tossed by grand juries.

It's a rogue agency with no accountability that will continue to cause untold harm while making everyone less safe.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Post by ActorNightly »

daheza wrote: post #22
icameron wrote: post #20

When I first heard the advice to ditch your phone when you go a protest, I thought maybe that's a little extreme. But it's a real threat. We already knew post Snowden there is an extensive big brother apparatus. We saw post 911 that all rights can be taken away in the name of counter-terrorism. Now with a government that's operating outside the law and labeling peaceful protesters as terrorists, I don't think we can…

If we all ditch our phones then how will we record the abuses of power?

Hate to break it to you, but people just simply dont care as much as you think they do. We have the right to own firearms for the purposes of protecting us against tyrany, but thats pointless when we cant even realize tyrany right outside our door.

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Post by [deleted] »

therobots927 wrote: post #44
i80and wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A decade ago I put this stance into my LinkedIn profile tag line, and was a little surprised how many engineers reached out to praise that decision. I think it's rapidly, finally , entering the realm of political viability.

All it took was a white mother (and US citizen) getting shot in broad daylight. As much as I hate to admit it, a large enough segment of the population needed something blatant like this to care.

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Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Post by nextgens »

unoti wrote: post #26
nemomarx wrote: post #10

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Are there decent wifi communicators on the market? I looked into some Lora projects for this but they never seem to actually ship or get past prorotypes

> Are there decent wifi communicators on the market? I looked into some Lora projects for this but they never seem to actually ship or get past prorotype Yes, 100%. Meshtastic and Meshcore both do this, but I'd recommend Meshcore. Here in the Seattle area we have a network that fairly reliably delivers messages from Canada through the Seattle metro area all the way down to Portland. Fully encrypted with dual key cryp…

Meshcore's crypto is interesting.

ECB, issues with key generation, key negotiation, seldom authenticated data, ...

It definitely works better than MT but please stop lauding it for its cryptographic properties ;)

It's at the bottom of their TODO, under the heading "V2 protocol spec".

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