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ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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When I first heard the advice to ditch your phone when you go a protest, I thought maybe that's a little extreme. But it's a real threat. We already knew post Snowden there is an extensive big brother apparatus. We saw post 911 that all rights can be taken away in the name of counter-terrorism. Now with a government that's operating outside the law and labeling peaceful protesters as terrorists, I don't think we can…

If we all ditch our phones then how will we record the abuses of power?

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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post #5

Any tips on how to avoid this? I suppose those tin foil signal blockers might be useful?

Not use any device that has GSM/LTE, or Bluetooth. Alternatively, broadcast a hidden SSID WiFi AP via an enabled RPi and use only devices that's have WiFi. Hand them out to people for free to increase the spread. Attach magnets to the RPi's and go rogue by sticking them to buses, cars and trains et cetera to increase range.

Hidden SSIDs are generally much worse for privacy than non-hidden ones, since all stations (clients in 802.11 terminology) need to constantly go around yelling "hey, is SSID abc available?" while they're not connected to any SSID.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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post #22

When I first heard the advice to ditch your phone when you go a protest, I thought maybe that's a little extreme. But it's a real threat. We already knew post Snowden there is an extensive big brother apparatus. We saw post 911 that all rights can be taken away in the name of counter-terrorism. Now with a government that's operating outside the law and labeling peaceful protesters as terrorists, I don't think we can…

If we all ditch our phones then how will we record the abuses of power?

....cameras exist :)

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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I wish this country had a libertarian right that cared one iota about widespread suppression of civil liberties instead of only whining about taxes.

Na, the libertarian right just wants to make money without laws first... then be authoritarians.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not use any device that has GSM/LTE, or Bluetooth. Alternatively, broadcast a hidden SSID WiFi AP via an enabled RPi and use only devices that's have WiFi. Hand them out to people for free to increase the spread. Attach magnets to the RPi's and go rogue by sticking them to buses, cars and trains et cetera to increase range.

Are there decent wifi communicators on the market? I looked into some Lora projects for this but they never seem to actually ship or get past prorotypes

> Are there decent wifi communicators on the market? I looked into some Lora projects for this but they never seem to actually ship or get past prorotype

Yes, 100%. Meshtastic and Meshcore both do this, but I'd recommend Meshcore. Here in the Seattle area we have a network that fairly reliably delivers messages from Canada through the Seattle metro area all the way down to Portland. Fully encrypted with dual key cryptography. Meshcore uses a different strategy than Meshtastic, which enables Meshcore to work more reliably. To see what's happening in your area for Meshcore see https://analyzer.letsmesh.net/map

Is very fun to set up a repeater for under $50 and see a noticeable difference in the coverage area. Is a fun technical project that combines the best of hiking/walking/driving geocaching style, ham radio (but without a license requirement), antenna building, and more. I'm getting acquainted with people in my neighborhood too which is a bonus.

Figuring out what hardware to buy that'll actually work can be a challenge, to get started search amazon for "heltec v3" and make sure you get something that includes a battery, and you'll see 2-packs of radios for $60. There's a web flasher at the above link that'll put the software on the radios for you.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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M.I.A.'s clothing brand is looking real good now. There are others but hers was the first I heard about. Seems like the waist bag would be critical for activists.

From the Ohmni website:

"...fabric's work by utilizing the principles of a Faraday cage to block or shield against electrical signals, electromagnetic radiation (EMR), and radio frequency interference (RFI)."

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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post #22

When I first heard the advice to ditch your phone when you go a protest, I thought maybe that's a little extreme. But it's a real threat. We already knew post Snowden there is an extensive big brother apparatus. We saw post 911 that all rights can be taken away in the name of counter-terrorism. Now with a government that's operating outside the law and labeling peaceful protesters as terrorists, I don't think we can…

If we all ditch our phones then how will we record the abuses of power?

Burners, which you never bring anywhere near your home, and which you do not drive your car to pick up.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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post #2

Dissolve ICE. Prosecute and/or disallow all ERO agents from any future public service positions.

A decade ago I put this stance into my LinkedIn profile tag line, and was a little surprised how many engineers reached out to praise that decision.

I think it's rapidly, finally, entering the realm of political viability.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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I wish this country had a libertarian right that cared one iota about widespread suppression of civil liberties instead of only whining about taxes.

The dirty secret about American politics is that people care about any of that stuff only to the extent that it supports their actual ideological goals. Freedom of religion, freedom of speech, state's rights, all of it. They want it for them, and don't care if anybody else has it _at best_, and actively want to take it away from others at worst.

Documents like the Declaration and Constitution only get written after centuries of bloodshed that we are far removed from, and people forget why anybody cared about such abstract principles to begin with.

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