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2025 was the year Xbox died

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Re: 2025 was the year Xbox died

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I'd be more impressed if an Xbox executive said that they weren't working on a new console, I mean I can't see how it can work as a business unless they change their attitude 200%. I trust those YouTubers more than I trust mainstream game journalists. In the current market for electronics I can't imagine a quantum leap in consoles at a sub-$1000 price point, it is not like NVIDIA or AMD gives a damn about gaming in t…

I think that's part of the convergence, too. A perceived war between scrappy honest influencers and legacy journalism, some long fallout from game journalism controversies a decade ago. Why would someone read a mainstream games journalist about this story, either? Same for tying a hardware console's fortunes to whatever Microsoft is doing with Activision. All three (four counting Steam) consoles update every several…

I don’t see what the point is for consoles that aren’t PCs. Pair an XBOX ONE controller with a decent PC and install Steam and it is not the sweaty experience that PC gaming was in the 1990s, but a lean-back “just works” experience, you can play the same games with the same controller. Instead of waiting for the upgrade cycle you can get the latest hardware from AMD, Intel or even Apple. If you want to spend more and get a top flight graphics card you can get high frame rates at 4k. And it’s a PC, you can hook up a keyboard and a mouse and do all your PC stuff too so it better justifies the price.

The PS5 has sold a respectable number of units but when I needed a mostly media box to sit next to a TV I got a used PS4 Pro because the PS5 was much more expensive, I have Steam on a few machines. There are only 15 exclusives for the PS 5, one is a remake of my favorite game from the early 2010s but that’s not worth it to me.

Microsoft should come out with XBOX gaming PCs, whether it is own-brand like the Surface or are licensed through partners like ASUS and Dell.

Re: 2025 was the year Xbox died

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xbox went up in flames with the xbox one, which was around about when microsoft as a whole started to get run by business types that had no idea what they were doing whatsoever. 2013 was when xbox permanently lost the console 'war'

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Re: 2025 was the year Xbox died

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The controller design/feel and the more seamless/intuitive online play & party handling kept me on the Xbox side of the fence for a looooooong time. That said, if I didn’t have to re-buy a bunch of content I already own and if I could avoid playing against MnK players while I’m on controller, I’d have already switched over entirely to using my workstation to play all my games. New purchases for myself and my kids are…

>and if I could avoid playing against MnK players while I’m on controller If you can stand to move away from an Xbox controller (they're the only ones without gyro still) and learn gyro/flick stick, it levels the playing field a lot more. Flick stick's instant turns even give it some advantages over KB+M. 8BitDo's controllers are the best-supported on Steam at the moment, with gyro, analog triggers, and back buttons…

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Re: 2025 was the year Xbox died

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I find it comical that the Switch was completely ignored, which just means to me that Nintendo finally won the console wars while the other two fight for second place. VGCharts has this for lifetime sales for the current consoles in the USA. Switch 1 (57,530,683) PlayStation 5 - (33,012,035) Xbox Series X|S - (20,764,129) Switch 2 -(4,243,125)

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Re: 2025 was the year Xbox died

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>and if I could avoid playing against MnK players while I’m on controller If you can stand to move away from an Xbox controller (they're the only ones without gyro still) and learn gyro/flick stick, it levels the playing field a lot more. Flick stick's instant turns even give it some advantages over KB+M. 8BitDo's controllers are the best-supported on Steam at the moment, with gyro, analog triggers, and back buttons…

I really hate UI button mismatch in steam. I grew up on PS controllers, I couldn't even tell you the xbox layout from memory. I was once forced to use a Switch controller (was traveling, forgot my main) while the in-screen UI was XBox. I had so much trouble at first, especially since the xbox and switch controllers share button names but even the "x" made me think of the playstation x. Just some musings.

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Re: 2025 was the year Xbox died

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>Things are looking worse this generation: The Xbox Series S and X reportedly only sold around 33 million units as of July, according to Statista estimates, while Sony confirmed it sold 84.2 million PS5s as of November. I read the title and I thought xbox must be doing really bad. Turns out not the case. Especially when two sales figures are 4 months apart. Historically speaking PlayStation has always outsold Xbox by…

>PlayStation has always outsold Xbox by 2-3 times even in Xbox's best days.

Huh? In Xbox's best days it was beating the Playstation 3 in sales (2006-2009).

Re: 2025 was the year Xbox died

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I find it comical that the Switch was completely ignored, which just means to me that Nintendo finally won the console wars while the other two fight for second place. VGCharts has this for lifetime sales for the current consoles in the USA. Switch 1 (57,530,683) PlayStation 5 - (33,012,035) Xbox Series X|S - (20,764,129) Switch 2 -(4,243,125)

Nintendo isn't really competing in the same space. You buy Nintendo if you want their exclusive games, otherwise not. For everything else, you get to pick between PlayStation, Xbox, PC, Steam deck, etc

Re: 2025 was the year Xbox died

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I used to follow system wars. I used to love following which home console was performing the best and then hopping online and trolling the people who bought the console with the least support. I was a huge fan of the 360 when I was younger. It had a superior controller, awesome online play, and decent graphics. I was never a fan of Sony's consoles. I didn't like the controller layout, and the exclusives never appeale…

PS5 controller wins for me as I can use the base of my thumb / thumbpad to hit d-(up/down/right) without taking my thumb off the stick.

I never liked the analog stick layout. I think they're too close together.
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