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Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5

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Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5

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Does KVM hypervisor work? Previous Qualcomm CPUs have locked hypervisor mode behind Qualcomm proprietary blobs, and only allowed HyperV to use it - this was definitely the case for WOS laptops.

MS Windows had an exclusive period for X1, but Google will support Android and ChromeOS on Qualcomm X2-based devices in 2026, which would require the pKVM/KVM hypervisor used by Android, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45368167

Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5

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I just checked: Frame is Gen 3 and the article is Gen 5.

The frame uses X Elite, their SoC designed or Laptops. These drivers are for mobile Line. Yeah the naming can be quite confusing.

the frame is using a standard mobile snapdragon 8 gen 3 with ARM designed cortex cores.

Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5

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As someone who uses Mobile Linux, I am pretty excited to see this, but I can't help but wonder if this is only a "Business decision" and not necessarily Qualcomm turning over a new leaf for being FOSS friendly: - Their Snapdragon X laptop didn't do very well, and they likely realize an ARM Windows laptop will always be a second class citizen: https://www.techpowerup.com/329255/snapdragon-x-failed-qualc... . - Likewis…

Snapdragon does poorly I think because it's a bet if it works or not. Windows runs things seamlessly other than OpenGL (it can run that too but it's not anything strait forward - needs the gl to dx store app thing) but the other reason is cost. for the premium business laptop most buyers (business) won't budge off Intel even because of the "no one got fired for buying IBM" mentality at the big Enterprises Ive been at…

Driver update depends on your OEM. Both ARM and Qualcomm send driver updates for their premium and upper highend Socs. The support reaching your phone is on the OEM. Google has started to push direct GPU driver updates starting with Pixel 10. So, hopefully others may follow too.

Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5

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Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5

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Snapdragon does poorly I think because it's a bet if it works or not. Windows runs things seamlessly other than OpenGL (it can run that too but it's not anything strait forward - needs the gl to dx store app thing) but the other reason is cost. for the premium business laptop most buyers (business) won't budge off Intel even because of the "no one got fired for buying IBM" mentality at the big Enterprises Ive been at…

Driver update depends on your OEM. Both ARM and Qualcomm send driver updates for their premium and upper highend Socs. The support reaching your phone is on the OEM. Google has started to push direct GPU driver updates starting with Pixel 10. So, hopefully others may follow too.

Usually GPU vendors (Nvidia, Intel, AMD) provide a way to download and install drivers manually (on Windows), including specific versions or older versions. Qualcomm is an outlier in this case.

Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5

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i'm using Linux just fine on an ARM desktop for a long time, via Apple Silicon hypervisor enabled via the UTM macos app (which wraps both Qemu, which i don't use, and Apple Silicon hypervisor, which i do use, configurable when instantiating a new image from an iso). i mention this because perhaps you'd like it too. in my case fedora 43 works just fine, and fast.

Ooh, thank you for this, I might try it on my m4 mac. Any tips or anything I should be aware of?

i used the UTM app from the App Store, and when creating a new instance, i select the Linux icon, which exposes the selection to enable Apple Silicon hypervisor rather than Qemu. it works perfectly. and it's fast. just great. I had used Asahi before, dual booting, which was a pain in the neck. this meanwhile is perfect.

Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5

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the year of linux on the arm desktop cannot come soon enough also, not to beat a horse that is by now six feet under, but > No delays, no hurry-up-and-wait, no registration. Just go get the new features. i'm so tired

i'm using Linux just fine on an ARM desktop for a long time, via Apple Silicon hypervisor enabled via the UTM macos app (which wraps both Qemu, which i don't use, and Apple Silicon hypervisor, which i do use, configurable when instantiating a new image from an iso). i mention this because perhaps you'd like it too. in my case fedora 43 works just fine, and fast.

what's the battery life like?

do you use macos at all, or do you do ~everything within a full-screened fedora instance?

Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5

#70

the year of linux on the arm desktop cannot come soon enough also, not to beat a horse that is by now six feet under, but > No delays, no hurry-up-and-wait, no registration. Just go get the new features. i'm so tired

tbh I don't mind it so much on corporate blogs, it mainly grinds my gears when people choose to do it in (what would otherwise be) more personal writing.
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