Has the death of Moore's Law been officially announced yet?
Moore’s Law has nothing to do with price.
It does but indirectly. Less power and more integration mean things get cheaper to build and run.
Server DRAM prices surge 50% as AI-induced memory shortage hits hyperscalers
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Re: Server DRAM prices surge 50% as AI-induced memory shortage hits hyperscalers
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are those graphs specifically for the US? When I change the country in the top right, it doesn't seem like the graphs are changing, and considering they're in USD, I'm assuming it's US-only? Is the same doubling happening world-wide or is this US-specific, I guess is my question? Edit: one data point, I last bought 128GB of RAM in March 2024 for ~€536, similar ones right now costs ~€500, but maybe the time range is t…
In the UK I was looking at DDR4-3200 SODIMM last week for some mini-pcs... and decided to pass after looking at the price graphs. It's spiked in the last few weeks.
Maybe it’s time to sell my unused DDR4s! I was thinking it’d be not worth anything at this point
Re: Server DRAM prices surge 50% as AI-induced memory shortage hits hyperscalers
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Best we're getting is probably a stop to the price raises, but no price cuts. Kids will continue to grow up not knowing a $600 flagship GPU or a $1000 gaming PC.
It really is a damn shame, but before AI, it was cryptomining. Desktop GPU prices have been inflated to nonsense levels for gamers, to the point where console vs. PC isnt even really question anymore.
If you stay off of the upgrade treadmill, you can game with a pretty dated card at this point. Sure, you cannot turn on all of the shines, but thanks to consoles, a playable build is quite attainable.
Re: Server DRAM prices surge 50% as AI-induced memory shortage hits hyperscalers
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
$1000 in 2010 is ~$1500 today — kids won't know these prices because the currency has been debased pretty rapidly in recent years.
This ram price spike is literally part of the currency debasing
Why does everyone pretend like prices are not post-pandemic gouged still?
Absolutely prices should adjust appropriately… once… oh never mind
Re: Server DRAM prices surge 50% as AI-induced memory shortage hits hyperscalers
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
Best we're getting is probably a stop to the price raises, but no price cuts. Kids will continue to grow up not knowing a $600 flagship GPU or a $1000 gaming PC.
$1000 in 2010 is ~$1500 today — kids won't know these prices because the currency has been debased pretty rapidly in recent years.
Pet peeve: Contrary to a persistent popular belief, inflation != currency debasement.
(You can have inflation while your currency go up relatively to all the others on the FX market, like what happened to USD in 2022-S1, or you can have massive inflation difference between countries sharing the same currency, like it happened in the Euro Area between 2022 and today).
Re: Server DRAM prices surge 50% as AI-induced memory shortage hits hyperscalers
#66Hopefully this will put pressure on the market to produce much more efficient AI models. As opposed to bigger, then bigger, and then even BIGGER models (which is the current trend).
FYI: gpt-oss:120b is better at coding (in benchmarks and my own anecdotal testing) than gpt5-mini. More importantly, it's so much faster too. We need more of this kind of optimization. Note that gpt5-mini is estimated to be around ~150 billion parameters.
Re: Server DRAM prices surge 50% as AI-induced memory shortage hits hyperscalers
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's exactly how it works. A whole generation is already unaware that you used to be able to buy PC games anonymously, offline, without a rent seeking middleman service.
I think there's always been a rent-seeking middleman service. In the 80s it was retail: you'd go to a physical computer store to buy a game for $50 (note: that's $150 inflation-adjusted, more expensive than most games today), and the retail store, the distributor, and the publisher would all take a cut. In the 2000s it was the developer's ISP, web developer, and credit card payment processor, which were non-trivial i…
You used to be able to resell PC games too
Re: Server DRAM prices surge 50% as AI-induced memory shortage hits hyperscalers
#68To be fair, RAM was way too cheap. I got 128GB for a laptop for 300eur. That's ridiculous. Now it's much more reasonable 720 eur (and sold out)
I cannot express in words how much I hate this mentality.
Re: Server DRAM prices surge 50% as AI-induced memory shortage hits hyperscalers
#69Has the death of Moore's Law been officially announced yet?
Moore’s Law has nothing to do with price.
>"The complexity for minimum component costs has increased at a rate of roughly a factor of two per year."
I would say that a claim about component cost has something to do with price.