The percentages should be counting upwards for the departments that are currently operational, instead they are currently static :)
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#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
A failure like this would immediately trigger reelections in the UK. It's a strong incentive to not shut down the government. There is no serious incentive to avoid this in the US. In fact, you're incentivised to be complicit in the shutdown and then blame the other party.
Indeed. In Australia, a government was once dismissed after failing to pass supply bills in the Senate (Supply bills allocate money to the government). The Governor-General resolved the deadlock by dissolving Parliament and calling an election. The event is known as “The Dismissal”. It remains one of the key examples of the Governor-General’s reserve powers in action.
The Dismissal is not an example of the Australian system working as intended.
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#64A far as I'm concerned, they're just intentionally failing to do their job. And they *all* in congress should be fired for job abandonment. And yes, rerun elections, with those idiots not allowed to run. After all, when I look at my W2 (yeah, I'm a working stiff), they sure as hell are taking out taxes still. That aint "shut down". It's a scam. Something about "taxation without representation". I think we went to war…
The Republican voters have responded very harshly to people seen as compromising with Democrats. Increasingly that's also true of Democratic voters, as they see their leadership as giving in to Republicans.
Unless that changes, you just get back to the same situation.
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#66This uptime monitor must be streaming illegal football (soccer) because it's blocked in Spain. IP Provider Status 188.114.97.5 AS13335 (CLOUDFLARENET, US) Blocked 188.114.96.5 AS13335 (CLOUDFLARENET, US) Blocked And the funny thing is free football is working as always. I know because a friend is watching a game right now while he comments on HN.
This is outrageous. Does Spain have a "Great Firewall" like China?
Every EU country has one, on nation- and on EU-level.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
A failure like this would immediately trigger reelections in the UK. It's a strong incentive to not shut down the government. There is no serious incentive to avoid this in the US. In fact, you're incentivised to be complicit in the shutdown and then blame the other party.
Indeed. In Australia, a government was once dismissed after failing to pass supply bills in the Senate (Supply bills allocate money to the government). The Governor-General resolved the deadlock by dissolving Parliament and calling an election. The event is known as “The Dismissal”. It remains one of the key examples of the Governor-General’s reserve powers in action.
This was an example of foreign interference (from where exactly is likely to remain unknown[0]); not an apolitical governor general stabilising the political system.
[0] https://thediplomat.com/2020/07/new-light-shed-on-australias...
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This is being done by the people America collectively elected. Moar Elections is not going to help. Enough Americans want this chaos and deliberately voted for it.
Unless your theory is that the median voter is kind of an idiot who doesn't understand how the government works and goes based on vibes. Such a person would ignore any issue short of, say, their paychecks or SSA benefits not arriving on time. After that, who knows who they would support? Democrats have a lot less to lose than the GOP right now. The party is unpopular and locked out of power. There's only upside to sh…
> Unless your theory is that the median voter is kind of an idiot who doesn't understand how the government works and goes based on vibes.
Um.
Yes that’s basically true, to the best of science’s reckoning, anyway. Like, you pretty much nailed it.
Political scientists had figured that out with very solid evidence by around the middle of the 20th century (solid evidence in part because this is obviously alarming so they did a lot of double-checking) then spent several decades trying to figure out an angle by which they could say “but it’s, uh, fine somehow?” or maybe even “but actually that’s good” before finally giving up on that and admitting it’s kind of amazing democracy works at all, and the whole thing’s scary-fragile.
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
A failure like this would immediately trigger reelections in the UK. It's a strong incentive to not shut down the government. There is no serious incentive to avoid this in the US. In fact, you're incentivised to be complicit in the shutdown and then blame the other party.
Indeed. In Australia, a government was once dismissed after failing to pass supply bills in the Senate (Supply bills allocate money to the government). The Governor-General resolved the deadlock by dissolving Parliament and calling an election. The event is known as “The Dismissal”. It remains one of the key examples of the Governor-General’s reserve powers in action.
Isn't this "as intended" in the westminster-style system? The govt is formed by MPs from the majority party (or alliance). By definition they MUST be able to pass ALL money bills, which only require a simple majority. Any failure to pass a money bill is equivalent to the govt no longer holding a majority support in parliament. And that means either the king/president/govgen invites someone else from the current parliament who they have good reason to believe DOES (potentially) have support of majority of the parliament, or dissolve the parliament and call fresh elections if there is no such majority.
I am not quite sure why an action with such a clear established precedent be considered foreign interference? or was it the case that there WAS a suitable candidate with a possible majority but they were NOT invited by the govgen to try and win a trust vote in parliament?
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
Indeed. In Australia, a government was once dismissed after failing to pass supply bills in the Senate (Supply bills allocate money to the government). The Governor-General resolved the deadlock by dissolving Parliament and calling an election. The event is known as “The Dismissal”. It remains one of the key examples of the Governor-General’s reserve powers in action.
Isn't this "as intended" in the westminster-style system? The govt is formed by MPs from the majority party (or alliance). By definition they MUST be able to pass ALL money bills, which only require a simple majority. Any failure to pass a money bill is equivalent to the govt no longer holding a majority support in parliament. And that means either the king/president/govgen invites someone else from the current parli…
It was very much an edge case, with one of Whitlam's senators on leave and recent changes to territory rules giving additional senators to the opposition party (as I recall ...) the ability to block supply appeared suddenly out of the blue.
Whitlam did move to call an election (rather than be sacked) which likely would have removed the blocked supply threat as he was at the time an extremely popular PM in Australia (loved by the common masses, despised by many elites) .. and when attending the Queens Repreresentative (the Governor General) to advise about calling an election .. he was removed by the G-G.
Strictly speaking the "as intended" outcome should have been to resolve a looming (not yet happened) supply crisis by allowing the people of Australia to vote, instead the government of the day (Whitlam's) was removed on a technical reading against the spirit of intended resolution.
There's a peer comment here that linked to a 2020 article on the finally released royal correspondance that's worth a read. The US influence angle has merit also, they had weight in the game for sure, how much and whether it tipped the balance is debatable.
Literally reams of contraversay here, the G-G acted autonomously and likely to save his own neck as Whitlam intended to replace the G-G, additionally many outside powers (the UK and the US) were whispering in the ears of those with levers to pull seeking to dump Whitlam; he was returning real power to the people, providing socialised health and education to the masses, asking questions about the role of secret American bases on AU soil, etc.
This was, indeed, extremely serious stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4jfR2u_9Kk