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Re: US Government Uptime Monitor

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Post by maest »

nekusar wrote: post #20

A far as I'm concerned, they're just intentionally failing to do their job. And they *all* in congress should be fired for job abandonment. And yes, rerun elections, with those idiots not allowed to run. After all, when I look at my W2 (yeah, I'm a working stiff), they sure as hell are taking out taxes still. That aint "shut down". It's a scam. Something about "taxation without representation". I think we went to war…

A failure like this would immediately trigger reelections in the UK. It's a strong incentive to not shut down the government.

There is no serious incentive to avoid this in the US. In fact, you're incentivised to be complicit in the shutdown and then blame the other party.

Re: US Government Uptime Monitor

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

nekusar wrote: post #20

A far as I'm concerned, they're just intentionally failing to do their job. And they *all* in congress should be fired for job abandonment. And yes, rerun elections, with those idiots not allowed to run. After all, when I look at my W2 (yeah, I'm a working stiff), they sure as hell are taking out taxes still. That aint "shut down". It's a scam. Something about "taxation without representation". I think we went to war…

> they're just intentionally failing to do their job

How is this a hot take? The debt ceiling is statute. Electeds are doing what their voters want them to do. Until shutdowns result in a bipartisan anti-incumbency wave, they won’t go away. (The electoral consequences of shutting down the government are mixed at best.)

Re: US Government Uptime Monitor

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Post by nekusar »

maest wrote: post #21
nekusar wrote: post #20

A far as I'm concerned, they're just intentionally failing to do their job. And they *all* in congress should be fired for job abandonment. And yes, rerun elections, with those idiots not allowed to run. After all, when I look at my W2 (yeah, I'm a working stiff), they sure as hell are taking out taxes still. That aint "shut down". It's a scam. Something about "taxation without representation". I think we went to war…

A failure like this would immediately trigger reelections in the UK. It's a strong incentive to not shut down the government. There is no serious incentive to avoid this in the US. In fact, you're incentivised to be complicit in the shutdown and then blame the other party.

> There is no serious incentive to avoid this in the US. In fact, you're incentivised to be complicit in the shutdown and then blame the other party.

Which is precisely what's happening.

Im frankly done with the children bickering. But in all seriousness, neither party really cares about us. Republicans are engorged with the tech neofascists, and the democrats are caught up with special interest du jour, with a healthy smattering of surveillance as well.

Ive seen how the governments (local, state, federal) operate. It's fucked, and its going to be a long time to fix it, if possible.

Not sure what my plans are, honestly. Take it as I can, i guess.

Re: US Government Uptime Monitor

#25

Post by nelox »

maest wrote: post #21
nekusar wrote: post #20

A far as I'm concerned, they're just intentionally failing to do their job. And they *all* in congress should be fired for job abandonment. And yes, rerun elections, with those idiots not allowed to run. After all, when I look at my W2 (yeah, I'm a working stiff), they sure as hell are taking out taxes still. That aint "shut down". It's a scam. Something about "taxation without representation". I think we went to war…

A failure like this would immediately trigger reelections in the UK. It's a strong incentive to not shut down the government. There is no serious incentive to avoid this in the US. In fact, you're incentivised to be complicit in the shutdown and then blame the other party.

Indeed. In Australia, a government was once dismissed after failing to pass supply bills in the Senate (Supply bills allocate money to the government). The Governor-General resolved the deadlock by dissolving Parliament and calling an election. The event is known as “The Dismissal”. It remains one of the key examples of the Governor-General’s reserve powers in action.

Re: US Government Uptime Monitor

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Post by roxolotl »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #22
nekusar wrote: post #20

A far as I'm concerned, they're just intentionally failing to do their job. And they *all* in congress should be fired for job abandonment. And yes, rerun elections, with those idiots not allowed to run. After all, when I look at my W2 (yeah, I'm a working stiff), they sure as hell are taking out taxes still. That aint "shut down". It's a scam. Something about "taxation without representation". I think we went to war…

> they're just intentionally failing to do their job How is this a hot take? The debt ceiling is statute. Electeds are doing what their voters want them to do. Until shutdowns result in a bipartisan anti-incumbency wave, they won’t go away. (The electoral consequences of shutting down the government are mixed at best.)

Just a nit but this isn't a debt ceiling issue. They raised the ceiling by 5trillion with the big bill passed in the spring[0]. Shutdowns occur because no budget has been passed so the government hasn't been authorized to spend any money. The bill they are arguing over now would fund the government through Nov 21st[1].

0: https://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/family-finan...

1: https://www.npr.org/2025/09/19/nx-s1-5545929/house-stopgap-f...

Re: US Government Uptime Monitor

#29

Post by BlackjackCF »

nekusar wrote: post #20

A far as I'm concerned, they're just intentionally failing to do their job. And they *all* in congress should be fired for job abandonment. And yes, rerun elections, with those idiots not allowed to run. After all, when I look at my W2 (yeah, I'm a working stiff), they sure as hell are taking out taxes still. That aint "shut down". It's a scam. Something about "taxation without representation". I think we went to war…

The US really needs formalized processes for snap elections and easier ability to recall elected officials. The fact that this is happening and we all just have to sit on our hands and wait for the next election is wild.
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