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Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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Public sector? In my country working for the energy grid operator feels like a constructive and positive contribution. Sorry about your dark place. Keep looking for the light!

If everyone works for the public sector, who's gonna work in the "evil private sector" to make the tax money that funds the public sector?

Is that really true?

Isn't it the other way around: the public sector funds the private sector that allows people to amass their hoards?

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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post #40

"Tens of millions" for controlling stake in NSO is like an order of magnitude less than what I'd imagine in todays environment. Comes off as cheap. Have their capabilities been overplayed? Is selling done under pressure? Are they not actually sitting on big bank and procurement network of valuable 0days?

Have their capabilities been overplayed?

I think so, but also while they're known as creating 0days, I think they do much more than that, and a lot of it is mundane in comparison.

Probably a big departure from their glory days anyway.

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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post #40

"Tens of millions" for controlling stake in NSO is like an order of magnitude less than what I'd imagine in todays environment. Comes off as cheap. Have their capabilities been overplayed? Is selling done under pressure? Are they not actually sitting on big bank and procurement network of valuable 0days?

I honestly don’t think that companies working at that are involved so deeply in military/security follow the same logic and patterns of regular ones.

Under the hood there could be anything, we only know just the surface of information that they purposefully let reach the surface. If there was a valid motivation to make it appear as a billion dollar acquisition, I’m sure there’d have been a way to make it appear as such.

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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post #32
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Investors: you must care of the planet, not emit any CO2 and not launder any money Also investors: let's invest in hacker business and break into all phones in the world

The first statement doesn’t sound like anything a professional investor would ever say

Nobody stated or implied that any of those statements were like anything a professional investor would say.

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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I always wondered how the software people who work in places like this live with themselves. Is it some sort of “enough money can make me forget and look myself in the mirror” situation?

The pay for this kind of work usually isn’t very good. People do it for the mission.

The mission: Enabled dictators to cling on to power against the will of the people. Help suppress the civil society and the rule of law. Endanger shaky democracies by helping authoritarian leaders and wannabe dictators to get rid of journalists, lawyers and the political opposition.

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first statement doesn’t sound like anything a professional investor would ever say

You’re being downvoted but in the end I don’t believe in altruistic investors: in the end it’s about money. There’s a reason government need to hand out tax benefits for people to invest into eco-friendly companies.

The downvotes aren't due to the existence of altruistic investors, they're about lack of reading comprehension.

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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post #4

I always wondered how the software people who work in places like this live with themselves. Is it some sort of “enough money can make me forget and look myself in the mirror” situation?

The pay for this kind of work usually isn’t very good. People do it for the mission.

Depends on what you consider good.

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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post #40

"Tens of millions" for controlling stake in NSO is like an order of magnitude less than what I'd imagine in todays environment. Comes off as cheap. Have their capabilities been overplayed? Is selling done under pressure? Are they not actually sitting on big bank and procurement network of valuable 0days?

Have their capabilities been overplayed? I think so, but also while they're known as creating 0days, I think they do much more than that, and a lot of it is mundane in comparison. Probably a big departure from their glory days anyway.

Maybe gory days. How many people did they help kill or harass/imprison?

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/meet-nso-group-go-company-human-r...

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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The scammers I can imagine. They’re more in the “thieves” category. Some break into houses, others trick people virtually. It’s not cool but I can imagine their motivation. The “develops weaponised software exploits” is not clear for me. Maybe it’s the same kind of mindset that lets people design and build weapons and bombs and such?

It really feels quite divorced. Workers in those roles don’t always even know what the exploits will be used for, and the technical aspects are really interesting.

(I wrote a whole thing here, but I think I want to sleep on it before having more people read it.)

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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post #40

"Tens of millions" for controlling stake in NSO is like an order of magnitude less than what I'd imagine in todays environment. Comes off as cheap. Have their capabilities been overplayed? Is selling done under pressure? Are they not actually sitting on big bank and procurement network of valuable 0days?

I think the issue is more there is a cloud over their future. There is much more scrutiny on them and who they are selling to, whether they will be able to continue as they have been doesn’t seem so certain.
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