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After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Clearly they cannot. They had already banned selling alcohol to kids.

Drugs too. Doesn't seem to stop ones that want to do it though by looking at some neighbourhoods.

Given that incompetent families will always exist,

you ban drugs because of the social consequences of the phenomenon - the damages are evaluated as high.

For other indulgences, social damages may vary.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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> “double-anonymity” or "double-blind" protocol: the site never sees the user’s identity, the verifier never learns which site is being visited, and only a yes/no “18+” token is exchanged. Isn't this an actually reasonable solution? I assumed age verification was supposed to be done by the site itself, and therefore it was considered a very bad idea. But this... what's the problem with this method?

> But this... what's the problem with this method? You're just hoping that there's never a leak of any UUID(s) that could be used to correlate things. The ad-tech industry has pioneered de-anonymization tech and they're very, very good at it. Tangential question: if the principal is divorced from the "is not a minor" signal, what prevents a thrifty youth from just buying/stealing somebody's token?

What prevents someone from buying, stealing or photoshopping an ID card?

I'd guess the same issue would be present with selling tokens.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Why does anybody care that their porn viewing habits become public? To me it sounds as ridiculous as somebody threatening to publish a log of the food we eat or the music we listen to.

Porn is considered a highly private activity for many reasons: societal disapproval, religious prohibitions...heck in some countries, watching gay porn is potentially a death sentence.

As recent events have proven we cannot be sure that a bunch of religious conservatives won't come into power.

I am a member of a leftist political party in my country and I have no doubt that if the fascists get their hands on the membership database I'm shipped off to a prison camp.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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A better way would be to only allow soft content for unverified users, so youngsters wouldn't be brainwashed and hooked by the excessive ram up a train in someone's arse kinda mindless, cromagnon like content. Politicians must be replaced with something more human centric. All they do is bring forth rules to deny something, instead of trying to cure the epidemic porn brings into the life of everyday people.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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> A more technically sound approach would be content controls directly implemented on the devices parents chose to give their children Passive aggression level 10, and I approve.

This is the only true solution. Parents need to take responsibility for what their kids are doing online, what they’re viewing and who they’re talking to. This generation of parents should be prepared for that but apparently not.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Porn is considered a highly private activity for many reasons: societal disapproval, religious prohibitions...heck in some countries, watching gay porn is potentially a death sentence.

I get wanting to keep illegal activities unknown to the authorities, so I'll concede that. But in the context of this thread, where a company was threatening to do this in a developed democratic country, that is not an issue, is it? Societal disapproval can be divided between people you interact with and strangers. Why would anybody what strangers think of them, particularly when those strangers would have to been ru…

Would you be willing to share your full name and your porn browsing habits? Here, to everyone reading this thread?

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Wait what? You can't do a Paternity test in France?

Correct. I believe it has to be court-ordered and even then it's rare. DNA testing is also generally illegal unless for medical reasons. They claim this is to "uphold family peace" because "fatherhood is social, not biological". It seems incredibly wrong to me in that they are removing the father's right to choose whether to enter that social role when it is not biologically mandated.

So even if requested by the mother?

Because I was once shocked to learn how easily it is in some countries (like Portugal) for a woman to have the court force a man to submit to a paternity test [0].

I also heard (I guess a few decades ago) the courts would start automatically an investigation on their own when no man would recognise a child at birth.

- [0] https://www.tpalaw.pt/xms/files/BANGA_Site/Paternity_investi...

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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> Can't you just educate them to avoid drinking to excess? No, you can't, they don't have that level of self-control yet This is not only untrue, it's actually the only worthwhile course. I know that bans, rules, and technical solutions are not substitutes for parenting. This is why all the kids of the parents I know who have tried that are doing all the supposedly disallowed things secretly (and circumventing the te…

It's shocking to read opinions that kids would not «have that level of self-control». Children can display self-control... And of course they can. (Just a tiny example: in many countries, we have them study since the age of five, sometimes earlier. They already have a sufficiently working anterior cingulate gyrus at and before that age; they have understanding of tradeoffs at and before that age.) -- Ooooh, hitters t…

Does that explain why most societies don't permit children to drive cars? Perhaps that's not based on development, but just being too short? I kid, but clearly we don't let children drive, vote, drink alcohol, have sex etc. because of general observations about their limits, including self-control.
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