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Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by thrdbndndn »

my_username_is_ wrote: post #56
wavemode wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Presumably, the idea is that AI drives down the cost (and thus, value / career prospects) of art and writing.

I'm gonna be honest... Very few people are artists for the pay

I'm not sure how this contradicts what they said. AI would likely lower the number of paid opportunities.

Additionally, art requires practice. Sure, some "lower-tier" artists may produce work that AI could replace without anyone noticing. But by removing that step, we risk having fewer truly great artists emerging.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by voidspark »

jsphweid wrote: post #60
eucryphia wrote: post #7

You know what the biggest problem with pushing all-things-Al is? Wrong direction. I want Al to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for Al to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes. - Joanna Maciejewska You could add music

I'm getting a little tired of hearing this quote at this point. What about humoring the opposite? I want AI to automate art so I can spend more time doing dishes and doing laundry. Dishes and laundry are purely analog human experiences. Art, at this point, is essentially digital, and digital is the domain of machines so we can let machines do that now.

I want AI to automate everything, so that I can exist in a pod, fed intravenously, in a permanent vegetative state.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by bufferoverflow »

eucryphia wrote: post #7

You know what the biggest problem with pushing all-things-Al is? Wrong direction. I want Al to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for Al to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes. - Joanna Maciejewska You could add music

Doesn't matter what you want. AI is going to do everything that humans do, and probably better, faster and cheaper.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by lionkor »

bufferoverflow wrote: post #63
eucryphia wrote: post #7

You know what the biggest problem with pushing all-things-Al is? Wrong direction. I want Al to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for Al to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes. - Joanna Maciejewska You could add music

Doesn't matter what you want. AI is going to do everything that humans do, and probably better, faster and cheaper.

But that's a senseless endeavour. We create art not for money, but for fun and expression.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by malloryerik »

nurettin wrote: post #29
senko wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incorrect :) Try doing it without the machine, see if you can spot the difference.

Still a chore with the machine. It is implied that AI will take over the machines, collect your socks and shirts from around the house, put them in the machine, dry them out, iron them and put them back in the drawer in an energy efficient and hygienic way while you are happily painting.

Yep, the beloved image of Aristotle gazing out at the slaves in the fields and saying that someday robots will do the labor and people will be at leisure, and not slaves looking toward the pagoda discussing how someday robots will own us all.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by bufferoverflow »

ipaddr wrote: post #21

The interest in ai music generation is lower than I initially thought. I jumped in but felt the exercise lacked the joy of making music physically or with software like pro tools. With pro tools you control the thousands of knobs which gives you more control. These AI models take away that connection. You can play around with different words to get different results but it's like painting with a shotgun. No one wants…

> No one wants to hear other people's ai songs because they lack meaning and novelty.

That's not true. I already found a few tracks that I like. It's actually impressive what Udio can produce. Also ElevenLabs demoed their music generator, and their demo tracks were all quite cool.

I do agree with you that fine controls are missing, and also splitting instruments/voices into separate tracks.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by jiehong »

eucryphia wrote: post #7

You know what the biggest problem with pushing all-things-Al is? Wrong direction. I want Al to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for Al to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes. - Joanna Maciejewska You could add music

Music is a form of Art, so the quote checks out.

While robots mature, analog arts and one time IRL art events are safe and might be the emphasis.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by Legend2440 »

lionkor wrote: post #64
bufferoverflow wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't matter what you want. AI is going to do everything that humans do, and probably better, faster and cheaper.

But that's a senseless endeavour. We create art not for money, but for fun and expression.

Still welcome to do so. Pottery remains a very popular hobby despite the fact that you can buy factory-made cookware.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by bufferoverflow »

lionkor wrote: post #64
bufferoverflow wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't matter what you want. AI is going to do everything that humans do, and probably better, faster and cheaper.

But that's a senseless endeavour. We create art not for money, but for fun and expression.

You forgot the most important and most common use of art: viewing and listening.

AI can already produce good music, good images. At least I found some that I liked.

And AI doesn't stop you from making art and having fun doing so.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by jiehong »

broof wrote: post #57

Ai music has been awesome for me, not because the music is that good, but because it gives me the ability to do something that I couldn’t have done myself. I use it all the time for my DnD group, songs about characters, funny moments, backstories, it’s a great tool that our players have found to increase engagement with the game

Sounds like a new genre: live music generated on the fly depending on each user’s context.

Just a new possibility!

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