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DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by ipaddr »

The interest in ai music generation is lower than I initially thought. I jumped in but felt the exercise lacked the joy of making music physically or with software like pro tools. With pro tools you control the thousands of knobs which gives you more control. These AI models take away that connection. You can play around with different words to get different results but it's like painting with a shotgun.

No one wants to hear other people's ai songs because they lack meaning and novelty.

AI image and short video generation can create novelty and interest. But when the medium require more from the person like reading a book or watching a movie the level of AI acceptance goes down. We'll accept an AI generated email or ad copy but not an ai generated playlist and certainly not a deepfake of someone from reality. That's what people want from AI, a blending of real life into a fantasy generator but no one is offering that yet.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by 999900000999 »

ipnon wrote: post #6

It seems to struggle to create music with a strong identity. It is great if you want to make a poor imitation of top 40 hits. But the thing about top 40 type music is that the best music is already in the Top 40. It remains to be seen if there is as strong a demand for a music chart filled with slop as there is demand for a music chart filled with pop tunes by celebrities. I don't think audio files are the right outp…

I actually built a very crude python app that could generate basic melodies with MIDI. It can serve as a fun starting point if you want to remix common songs. But it wasn't a very fun project to set up. It's like this technology is out there but nobody really wants to develop it.

If I had to guess there are already a handful of fake record labels generating at tons of AI slop to just post on Spotify. Even if each song only gets something like two or three views over time they can still generate a modest amount of revenue. Oh wait Spotify has been caught doing that themselves

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by TheAceOfHearts »

I've made a few tracks using Suno to scratch my own itch / desire for music that covers certain themes.

The best use of Suno for has been the ease with which you can generate diss tracks: I ask Gemini to make a diss track lyrics related to specific topics, and then I have Suno generate the actual track. It's very cathartic when you're sitting at home in the dark because the power company continues to fail.

Anyway, I hope I can get access, I think it would be fun to vibe some new music. Although this UI looks severely limited in what capabilities it provides. Why aren't the people who build these tools innovating more? It would be cool if you could generate a song and then have it split into multiple tracks that you can remix and tweak independently. Maybe a section of track is pretty good but you want to switch out a specific instrument. Maybe describe what kind of beats you want to the tool and have it generate multiple potential interpretations, which you can start to combine and build up into a proper track. I think ideally I'd be able to describe what kind of mood or vibe I'm going for, without having to worry about any of the musical theory behind it, and the tool should generate what I want.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by Shorel »

htrp wrote: post #4

Only available in the US "Country of residence (this current phase of the experiment is only available to users based in the U.S. for now, but feel free to submit interest and stay tuned for updates): "

The world will wait for the Deepseek version.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by ipaddr »

hiddencost wrote: post #14
moralestapia wrote: post #10

>Waitlist They still haven't learned, wow. Someone in there really wants to drive Google to the ground.

Leadership wrote the requirement "launch by X date if you want to get promoted". Rank and file said "absurd". Middle management figured out a way to claim success to leadership while keeping rank and file from quitting.

Usually that's the Iceland rollout.

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TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #23

I've made a few tracks using Suno to scratch my own itch / desire for music that covers certain themes. The best use of Suno for has been the ease with which you can generate diss tracks: I ask Gemini to make a diss track lyrics related to specific topics, and then I have Suno generate the actual track. It's very cathartic when you're sitting at home in the dark because the power company continues to fail. Anyway, I…

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Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by rTX5CMRXIfFG »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #23

I've made a few tracks using Suno to scratch my own itch / desire for music that covers certain themes. The best use of Suno for has been the ease with which you can generate diss tracks: I ask Gemini to make a diss track lyrics related to specific topics, and then I have Suno generate the actual track. It's very cathartic when you're sitting at home in the dark because the power company continues to fail. Anyway, I…

> Why aren't the people who build these tools innovating more?

We’re getting access to generative AI tech and people are looking for innovation in the UI? I mean I get the need for UX but it’s probably coming man, what with MVPs and all

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by nurettin »

senko wrote: post #16
bicepjai wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who ever says this have not done laundry :)

Incorrect :) Try doing it without the machine, see if you can spot the difference.

Still a chore with the machine. It is implied that AI will take over the machines, collect your socks and shirts from around the house, put them in the machine, dry them out, iron them and put them back in the drawer in an energy efficient and hygienic way while you are happily painting.
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