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Executives and Research Disagree About Hybrid Work. Why?

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The C-Suite is so highly paid and lives such a comfortable life that they can't even fathom how much productivity is lost by the average individual commuting for an hour and having to bounce for kids/family/home/medical issues. They truly don't understand why people may want to leave work, be at home when they themselves have ZERO chores to deal with. And they also don't understand why people are not as passionate as…

Let's not be too hyperbolic here. The average mid-level dev at Amazon is making over $250k while the average senior makes over $400k (source levels.fyi) so they're hardly "just scraping by" and can afford many of those same life comforts.

> Let's not be too hyperbolic here. The average mid-level dev at Amazon is making over $250k while the average senior makes over $400k (source levels.fyi)

This $400k guy still pays an enormous mortgage, still struggles to pay $2.5k for daycare, still can't call a concierge to take care of medical appointments, can't just hire Uber eats for every meal, can't just hire a service for everything, still has to commute in traffic for work, still has to take cars for servicing, still has to call handyman and play scheduling poker for fixes in the house.

Compare this to Andy Jassy making $7 million in the NEXT 3 months. He's going to be able to hire services for everything, helicopter into work, get catered food, have schools, house, kids, services all taken care of. His life is literally just work in the most comfortable setting possible.

It is not even comparable. Higher compensation does not compensate for shithole lives imposed by an employer who themselves are living the most lavish life possible. The $125k/quarter person will NEVER be as motivated as $7m/quarter person. It is delusional to expect the same level of work for such wide pay disparity.

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It's not a lie. It just means that their culture is based on micromanagement, power trips and control.

Which makes it a lie because their stated reasons are not the actual reasons.

From what is reported I disagree. But I reckon speech can be read in different ways than how I did.

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Exactly, and it's been proven time and time again that such in-person collaboration leads to improved job satisfaction, retention, and overall employee happiness.

But they're being thrown into an office to still spend their time on video calls with teams spread out across the country?

My entire team is in another time zone. And like many, I don't even have an assigned desk at the office. So, my RTO is commuting in, booking an empty conference room, and then dialing in to meetings with people on the other side of the country.

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The C-Suite is so highly paid and lives such a comfortable life that they can't even fathom how much productivity is lost by the average individual commuting for an hour and having to bounce for kids/family/home/medical issues. They truly don't understand why people may want to leave work, be at home when they themselves have ZERO chores to deal with. And they also don't understand why people are not as passionate as…

> They truly don't understand why people may want to leave work Exactly. Leadership typically sees the workplace as a rewarding experience where they exercise control and get lots of dopamine. They truly can't understand that it's the exact opposite for everyone else.

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Company I work for implemented more RTO recently and when someone asked in an all hands for data showing that the first RTO decision was leading to an improvement in productivity or some other key metric and the CTO responded saying (paraphrasing) “this isn’t a data based decision leadership is making. It’s because we want to build a culture where people are working next to each other more frequently. We FEEL that th…

For me the problem is that the culture story just feels like a lie

Great news for employees! They can make proposals and justify them by saying "the culture in this company is to justify things by saying that they feel right. This feels right." Productivity will be through the roof.

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This explains everything: "It’s not practical. Hybrid work may be technically the best route, but it’s also complicated to oversee." Who cares if workers are productive, when the leadership is clearly less productive? And the leadership's time is extremely valuable. If remote work makes workers more productive, while the leadership is less productive, then remote work is bad for a company, full stop, no other convers…

If leadership cannot take advantage of, let alone adjust to remote work in 2024, they're not good leaders.

If workers cannot do what the leadership needs, then they are bad workers, they need to be fired.

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In many cases I suspect that leadership remembers the time when the company was small and everybody was basically all in the same room and how productive that time was. If you can get the entire company into a single small room magical things can happen. But RTO doesn't get the entire company into a single small room.

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As an employee, WFH is good As an employer, WFH is evil Here's two citations you can use for your paper, I'll see my check in the mail.

It is my opinion that these sorts of statements are devoid of value and don’t contribute to the conversation. Good for Reddit.

My grandpap always said the same of unions. Great if you’re in them. Terrible if not.

I have similar thoughts on prison. They’re good when you’re not in one but suck if you are.

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