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Executives and Research Disagree About Hybrid Work. Why?

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Re: Executives and Research Disagree About Hybrid Work. Why?

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This explains everything:

"It’s not practical. Hybrid work may be technically the best route, but it’s also complicated to oversee."

Who cares if workers are productive, when the leadership is clearly less productive? And the leadership's time is extremely valuable. If remote work makes workers more productive, while the leadership is less productive, then remote work is bad for a company, full stop, no other conversation is needed.

Re: Executives and Research Disagree About Hybrid Work. Why?

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I think most executives are pretty straightforward that their concern isn’t about the things most studies measure. Jassy sees the benefits as being: > we’ve observed that it’s easier for our teammates to learn, model, practice, and strengthen our culture; collaborating, brainstorming, and inventing are simpler and more effective; teaching and learning from one another are more seamless; and, teams tend to be better c…

Exactly, and it's been proven time and time again that such in-person collaboration leads to improved job satisfaction, retention, and overall employee happiness.

Is the Amazon meat grinder the paradigm of that? I like in person collaboration despite working remotely, but I don't think forcing everyone back is the right call. Maybe people forget the opposite; scolding emails about how their should be butts in seats at 7 pm when the pizzaman cometh.

Re: Executives and Research Disagree About Hybrid Work. Why?

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post #6

I do love that HN commenters painstakingly refute and poke holes in any and all research except that which confirms that remote work is good.

Most of the comments in this thread are doing the opposite. They're saying that despite the research the intangibles are actually what matter (for RTO).

Re: Executives and Research Disagree About Hybrid Work. Why?

#35
I was at a a certain company (not for long) that did quick all-hands stand-up meetings once a week, so everyone could touch base. About 30-40 people, all standing up, took about 15 minutes.

At the end of one meeting the CEO hosts a goodbye ritual for the CTO who is leaving for some other job or something. It was all blather about how great the guy is and how great it is that he's leaving and how that's great for the company even though he's great and we'll miss him, etc. etc. yadda yadda.

Here's the punchline: at the start of the ritual the CEO and exiting CTO pulled out stools and sat down on them. It's a stand-up meeting. The rest of us are all still standing.

Re: Executives and Research Disagree About Hybrid Work. Why?

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post #23

Company I work for implemented more RTO recently and when someone asked in an all hands for data showing that the first RTO decision was leading to an improvement in productivity or some other key metric and the CTO responded saying (paraphrasing) “this isn’t a data based decision leadership is making. It’s because we want to build a culture where people are working next to each other more frequently. We FEEL that th…

For me the problem is that the culture story just feels like a lie

It's not a lie. It just means that their culture is based on micromanagement, power trips and control.

Re: Executives and Research Disagree About Hybrid Work. Why?

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly, and it's been proven time and time again that such in-person collaboration leads to improved job satisfaction, retention, and overall employee happiness.

By what studies?

Ones funded by the Extrovert Realtors Association in cooperation with the League of Municipal Tax Collectors and Parking Deck Guild.

Re: Executives and Research Disagree About Hybrid Work. Why?

#39

I think most executives are pretty straightforward that their concern isn’t about the things most studies measure. Jassy sees the benefits as being: > we’ve observed that it’s easier for our teammates to learn, model, practice, and strengthen our culture; collaborating, brainstorming, and inventing are simpler and more effective; teaching and learning from one another are more seamless; and, teams tend to be better c…

Exactly, and it's been proven time and time again that such in-person collaboration leads to improved job satisfaction, retention, and overall employee happiness.

According to studies, thing $X leads to improved job satisfaction, retention, and overall employee happiness. According to studies, thing $Y which is the exact opposite of thing $X leads to improved job satisfaction, retention, and overall employee happiness.

Maybe those studies aren't saying what people think they are saying?

Re: Executives and Research Disagree About Hybrid Work. Why?

#40

Company I work for implemented more RTO recently and when someone asked in an all hands for data showing that the first RTO decision was leading to an improvement in productivity or some other key metric and the CTO responded saying (paraphrasing) “this isn’t a data based decision leadership is making. It’s because we want to build a culture where people are working next to each other more frequently. We FEEL that th…

The C-Suite is so highly paid and lives such a comfortable life that they can't even fathom how much productivity is lost by the average individual commuting for an hour and having to bounce for kids/family/home/medical issues. They truly don't understand why people may want to leave work, be at home when they themselves have ZERO chores to deal with. And they also don't understand why people are not as passionate as…

Let's not be too hyperbolic here. The average mid-level dev at Amazon is making over $250k while the average senior makes over $400k (source levels.fyi) so they're hardly "just scraping by" and can afford many of those same life comforts.
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