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Re: One pioneering grizzly and her two cubs appear on Vancouver Island

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Post by ianbicking » Sun, Oct 06, 2024, 9:20 PM UTC

xrd wrote: post #54

I'm sad this magazine will be ending soon. They do such great writing. I was at orcas Island recently. I wanted to have my kids hear some good stories about the place, so I started asking anyone I met, "tell me a story about a dangerous animal attack here!" Everyone would just say, "hmm, there aren't any dangerous animals..." Then, one person said. "Well, there was that person that died from a bee sting." Then someon…

The mink story is interesting... presumably they are native, but had disappeared locally due to overhunting. But probably many of their competitors also disappeared (martins, weasels, etc) so there's an opening.

Though even that wouldn't seem sufficient... it's not like minks are undergoing natural population booms elsewhere. Which makes me think that there's simply a critical mass advantage, like maybe mink are too anti-social for their own good.

Re: One pioneering grizzly and her two cubs appear on Vancouver Island

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Post by K0balt » Mon, Oct 07, 2024, 11:53 AM UTC

scooke wrote: post #55

dyauspitr wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently the great slave lake was named after the indigenous dene people, who were called the slave tribe by their enemy tribe the Cree.

No need for the word "tribe" here. They are the Dene. They are the Slave. They are the Cree. we don't say "the German tribe" (of Europe), or the Swiss tribe. This term typically is used to describe a smaller group belonging to a larger group. In this case, the larger group is subconsciously thought of Indians, or even First Nations, or Aboriginals. But the Cree, Slave Dene and any other number of nations are not trib…

I think the comparison you draw with modern Germans or Swiss kind of diminishes your point. It would be more appropriate to compare this to Saxons or something analogous, lest your point seem disingenuous.

The use of tribe, incidentally, is common when describing Saxon tribes, who formed a confederation collectively known as the Saxons. The term tribe is not somehow prejudicial, and it would be a poverty to lose yet another perfectly good word to social hypersensitivity.

Not that your point is invalid, from my limited knowledge of the subject you are correct in pointing out that the Cree, et al are supergroups of tribes and correctly described as nations in the historical sense, and in some limited capacity, in a modern sense.

My point is that you risk undermining your claim if you compare them to a modern, fully sovereign nation, because the context is not apt for comparison, and I think readers lose out if they dismiss your statement based on a poor example.

Re: One pioneering grizzly and her two cubs appear on Vancouver Island

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Post by pvaldes » Mon, Oct 07, 2024, 8:07 PM UTC

ianbicking wrote: post #61

xrd wrote: post #54

I'm sad this magazine will be ending soon. They do such great writing. I was at orcas Island recently. I wanted to have my kids hear some good stories about the place, so I started asking anyone I met, "tell me a story about a dangerous animal attack here!" Everyone would just say, "hmm, there aren't any dangerous animals..." Then, one person said. "Well, there was that person that died from a bee sting." Then someon…

The mink story is interesting... presumably they are native, but had disappeared locally due to overhunting. But probably many of their competitors also disappeared (martins, weasels, etc) so there's an opening. Though even that wouldn't seem sufficient... it's not like minks are undergoing natural population booms elsewhere. Which makes me think that there's simply a critical mass advantage, like maybe mink are too…

American mink is a good example of a very invasive species in Europe. They seem to enjoy swimming on the sea there also.