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One pioneering grizzly and her two cubs appear on Vancouver Island

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Re: One pioneering grizzly and her two cubs appear on Vancouver Island

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Post by tastyfreeze »

mistrial9 wrote: post #24
tastyfreeze wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For good reason. Brown bears eat people. You are no more than a slow meal to them. Coexistence means accepting that people will be eaten by bears or bears will be killed by people defending themselves. I think it is worth noting that native tribes prepared for war if the needed to kill a brown bear.

> Attacks on humans, though widely reported, are generally rare. Brown bears prefer salmon to geezers who talk big, for certain.

Says somebody that has never lived where brown bears do. They can and will gladly eat you if you are the best meal around. Salmon are only around for maybe 1/4 of the year.

Re: One pioneering grizzly and her two cubs appear on Vancouver Island

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Post by cco »

karaterobot wrote: post #27
BurningFrog wrote: post #26

So are these Grizzlies now an "invasive species" on Vancouver Island? Explain why or why not you think so!

If they swam there, no. Invasive species have to be introduced by humans, by definition! The effect of grizzlies on the island ecosystem is unknown, and that may be more of what you're talking about.

By what definition? Humans being involved didn't seem common in definitions I found.

Re: One pioneering grizzly and her two cubs appear on Vancouver Island

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Post by dyauspitr »

grecy wrote: post #8
LilBytes wrote: post #6

Might make for an interesting development on future seasons of Alone if Grizzles become a common presence on Vancouver Island. My understanding of read materials so far is the amount of work gone into the program to risk profile danger was incredible, the change in risk profile of the addition of Grizzles on top of wolves and black bears would be quite an adjustment.

My Yukon buddy was the safety officer/local guy when they did alone up on great slave lake in the NWT.( near Yellowknife) He hung around all the time with his hunting rifle and a 12 gauge loaded with slugs to make sure nobody got eaten. He got in trouble for sharing smokes and giving fire to the contestants a few times.

Apparently the great slave lake was named after the indigenous dene people, who were called the slave tribe by their enemy tribe the Cree.

Re: One pioneering grizzly and her two cubs appear on Vancouver Island

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Post by steve3242 »

The specific location was kept out of publications for a while but unfortunately the cat is now out of the bag. It looks like an earlier story from near the end of August also divulged that info. Hopefully they are given space next year but there is a real risk that many people will now drive to that spot for a sighting. It was quite impressive that the location was kept out of publications for as long as it was but eventually someone had to ruin that.

Re: One pioneering grizzly and her two cubs appear on Vancouver Island

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Post by jdougan »

alephnerd wrote: post #30

Ofc it's Sayward /s Vancouver Island is beautiful. If only the people's personalities were just as beautiful as the nature, but stuff may have changed since the mid-2000s. That said, Richmond was worse. Is the antique car and hot rod show still a thing in Comox?

> If only the people's personalities were just as beautiful as the nature,

Matthew 7:3

> Is the antique car and hot rod show still a thing in Comox?

Looks like it is: https://crownisle.com/event/hot-august-nights-classic-car-sh...

Re: One pioneering grizzly and her two cubs appear on Vancouver Island

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Post by fbarred »

dagmx wrote: post #34
BurningFrog wrote: post #26

So are these Grizzlies now an "invasive species" on Vancouver Island? Explain why or why not you think so!

The article says that grizzlies did use to exist on the island, so they’d not be invasive

By that definition, horses that were introduced to North America by humans in 16th century are not invasive because they existed in North America 10,000 years ago.

Re: One pioneering grizzly and her two cubs appear on Vancouver Island

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Post by fbarred »

AlbertCory wrote: post #15
blindriver wrote: post #11

How would they avoid inbreeding and genetic mutations if only a single bloodline existed there?

I think the grizzlies will take care of that on their own. Either some bears from the island will swim to the mainland, or vice versa. Note: don't ask for a link on that. I just suspect animals prefer not to mate with their siblings.

From the article:

'On Vancouver Island—about 10 times closer to the mainland—the genetic diversity of any future grizzly population shouldn’t be a problem. As we’ve seen, “there’ll be males coming over to mix up the genes,” McLellan says. And now, perhaps, the odd female too."'

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