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Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by esalman »

wtallis wrote: post #6

Microsoft makes it a pain, but you can still jump through some CLI hoops to use only a local user account to log in to Windows, rather than the cloud-conmected Microsoft account they try to funnel you into. Not logging into a Microsoft account prevents OneDrive from doing anything other than spamming you with notifications about how great it would be if you logged in and started using it. And you can still uninstall…

I was trying to install security updates into a ~8 years old laptop the other day. It's been updated to Windows 10 before. The updates were OTA, but after it completed there was no way to log into the local account without logging into a Microsoft account first (while it being connected to Wi-Fi). Here's the kicker, since this still being on the pre-login setup screen, there was no option to disable Wi-Fi either.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by Bilal_io »

amanzi wrote: post #50

I'm all for hating on Microsoft for their continued destruction of the local Windows 11 experience, but I actually think this is a good decision. Assuming you're logging in with a Microsoft account, and assuming you have a OneDrive account, it's a better experience to set up the folder backup feature as early as possible in the set-up process. If you really don't want it, it's easy to undo. I still don't like being f…

> Assuming you're logging in with a Microsoft account

The whole issue lies within this assumption. Microsoft does not want you to use a local account, and they make it extremely difficult to setup your Windows machine without one.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by dpkirchner »

whalesalad wrote: post #45
Zardoz84 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It simply works. It's amazing what does now Wine/Proton

I was pretty blown away by how simple and straightforward the experience was for me recently on Debian 12. * Go to app store (flatpak) and install Steam * Launch and login to Steam * Install Helldivers 2 * Launch the game. Done! Everything "just works"

Even games with EAC and Battleye ("anti cheats") work well. That was pretty surprising.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by okasaki »

ziddoap wrote: post #52
okasaki wrote: post #48

I recently reinstalled Windows Home. It's not possible to install a local account any more. Apparently all the loopholes have been closed. It just loops you back to the "oops looks like you lost internet access" page. I made a new account - installer @outlook.com with no@thankyou.com as the backup email (which you have to give). Microsoft didn't like that, so it made me go through 10 minutes of captchas (captcas in t…

> It's not possible to install a local account any more. Apparently all the loopholes have been closed. It just loops you back to the "oops looks like you lost internet access" page. This simply isn't true, I did a computer with Windows 11 Home 3 days ago with local accounts. OOBE\bypassnro still works as expected.

No it doesn't.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by anothername12 »

I just use it for playing games on steam, but lately it’s annoying even for that. I tried steam on Linux with proton and whatnot. It works okish, but there were too many issues with screen flickering. The Xorg/Wayland/nvidia info out there made it too confusing to deal with work arounds. A younger me would have persisted though.

So it looks like I’m in it for another Windows-issued flogging at least.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by steve_taylor »

elorant wrote: post #40

Why is Win11 such a pain though? I don't get it. You had Win10 that worked just fine and they went on and fucked it up to what gain? Did they manage to sell more of other products in their lineup? And you do all that when Apple has its own silicon and produces superb laptops that could lure a lot of people in their ecosystem. I understand that Windows isn't the cash cow it used to be, they've moved to greener pasture…

Presumably, the Windows team has various targets to meet in terms of ARPU and things of that nature.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by ziddoap »

okasaki wrote: post #64
ziddoap wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's not possible to install a local account any more. Apparently all the loopholes have been closed. It just loops you back to the "oops looks like you lost internet access" page. This simply isn't true, I did a computer with Windows 11 Home 3 days ago with local accounts. OOBE\bypassnro still works as expected.

No it doesn't.

Yes, it does. I'm not the only one in this thread, the other Windows thread from today, or online that has installed Windows 11 Home in the last week and successfully setup local-only accounts.

When dozens of people say it still works and one says it doesn't, chances are the one person did it incorrectly.

It works.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by bee_rider »

janice1999 wrote: post #53
Syonyk wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ...to get new PC gamers onto an alternative for there to be a considerable shift away from Windows. Have you tried Steam on Linux? It works amazingly well, either with native Linux support in games or through Proton support (their Windows emulation layer). Quite a few people I know have gone that route and are shocked at just how well it works in practice.

I recently purchased a Steam Deck and I've been blown away by how games just work. I used to use Wine a lot for applications in the early 2010s and it was always hit and miss (and Codeweaver for Office support). Proton is amazing.

I think the discussion is tainted actually by technical people who used Wine in the bad old days, haha. I fought Wine a decade ago and it was pretty bad. If anyone had asked, I’d probably give the “dual boot, may as well keep Windows around as a glorified console” spiel.

A non-technical friend got a steam deck, when I asked what OS he’d used I got a response along the lines of “oh, I guess it must be Linux.” It the thought about what OS hadn’t even occurred.

The future is cool.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by Sayrus »

Zardoz84 wrote: post #36
wtallis wrote: post #6

Microsoft makes it a pain, but you can still jump through some CLI hoops to use only a local user account to log in to Windows, rather than the cloud-conmected Microsoft account they try to funnel you into. Not logging into a Microsoft account prevents OneDrive from doing anything other than spamming you with notifications about how great it would be if you logged in and started using it. And you can still uninstall…

Or just use a Linux distro and avoid all M$ shit

Unfortunately the world runs on Word and Excel and unless you want the even worse Office 365 experience, you often do need some M$.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by mananaysiempre »

janice1999 wrote: post #53
Syonyk wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ...to get new PC gamers onto an alternative for there to be a considerable shift away from Windows. Have you tried Steam on Linux? It works amazingly well, either with native Linux support in games or through Proton support (their Windows emulation layer). Quite a few people I know have gone that route and are shocked at just how well it works in practice.

I recently purchased a Steam Deck and I've been blown away by how games just work. I used to use Wine a lot for applications in the early 2010s and it was always hit and miss (and Codeweaver for Office support). Proton is amazing.

> I used to use Wine a lot for applications in the early 2010s and it was always hit and miss

IME Wine is still hit and miss for applications in general, even old ones. Games are just a particularly good fit here—they rarely care how well your COM marshalling or shell namespace or transactional NTFS or weird SQL-like inside Windows Installer is implemented. Not to imply that getting games to work is a simple task, just that the API surface is much less spread out, and any emulation improvements for a single game are more likely to improve support for a wider range of other games.

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