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Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by Waterluvian »

wtallis wrote: post #6

Microsoft makes it a pain, but you can still jump through some CLI hoops to use only a local user account to log in to Windows, rather than the cloud-conmected Microsoft account they try to funnel you into. Not logging into a Microsoft account prevents OneDrive from doing anything other than spamming you with notifications about how great it would be if you logged in and started using it. And you can still uninstall…

Inaccessible to 99% of users, but an escape hatch for the 1% who might make a useful fuss. Evil genius.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by Syonyk »

noodleman wrote: post #20
whalesalad wrote: post #2

Seems like every 48-72 hours now Microsoft announces yet another extremely compelling reason to abandon their platform for Linux.

They've been at it for years. I'd genuinely be surprised if this cracked the top 10 worst things Microsoft have done to Windows users. I think there would need to be a concerted effort at a grass-roots level, say from r/buildapc, to get new PC gamers onto an alternative for there to be a considerable shift away from Windows.

> ...to get new PC gamers onto an alternative for there to be a considerable shift away from Windows.

Have you tried Steam on Linux? It works amazingly well, either with native Linux support in games or through Proton support (their Windows emulation layer). Quite a few people I know have gone that route and are shocked at just how well it works in practice.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by [deleted] »

hollowturtle wrote: post #7

To me Microsoft, Apple, Google, Facebook they all seem by a degree or another totally out of control. They seem to be so careless of any short-long term consequence that I wonder if there is any accountability at all or if it’s just a shitshow of who does perform better and get bonuses

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Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by LinuxBender »

ziddoap wrote: post #19
dyauspitr wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It forced me this last time I set up windows 11

There are several bypasses. Don't connect to the internet -> Shift + F10 to bring up CLI -> OOBE\bypassnro The out-of-box experience will restart, and you will have a button to set up with a local account. You can also (or at least could , it's been a bit since I've tried this method) use a banned e-mail account when it asks for your Microsoft account.

Additionally burning the ISO to Thumb drive with Rufus [1] gives an option to disable Microsoft Accounts and hardware validation upon installation.

[1] - https://rufus.ie/en/

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by Zardoz84 »

wtallis wrote: post #6

Microsoft makes it a pain, but you can still jump through some CLI hoops to use only a local user account to log in to Windows, rather than the cloud-conmected Microsoft account they try to funnel you into. Not logging into a Microsoft account prevents OneDrive from doing anything other than spamming you with notifications about how great it would be if you logged in and started using it. And you can still uninstall…

Or just use a Linux distro and avoid all M$ shit

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by cjk2 »

hhh wrote: post #12
wtallis wrote: post #6

Microsoft makes it a pain, but you can still jump through some CLI hoops to use only a local user account to log in to Windows, rather than the cloud-conmected Microsoft account they try to funnel you into. Not logging into a Microsoft account prevents OneDrive from doing anything other than spamming you with notifications about how great it would be if you logged in and started using it. And you can still uninstall…

You can still use it offline without an account just fine with Pro SKUs and up.

Not by saying "no" you can't. You have to fuck around with shift+F10 and oobe stuff. This was tested on 23H2 yesterday.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by deanCommie »

cjk2 wrote: post #16

Why the hell aren't the EU and the FTC suing the shit out of them for bundling, telemetry, lock in, gouging, shitty defaults?

I think the 90's Antitrust battle was long and painful for everyone, and the hope was that the lessons from the fallout of it from it would carry forward in OS design.

But the staff has turned over and nobody remembers it anymore, so here we go again. (see also: The rise of Fascism worldwide as WW2 veterans die off)

That said, a Web Browser was/is a disproportionately significant application for the OS, where preferential defaults and bundling raise anti-trust concerns. Not so with a cloud backup option. TBH, Apple has been/remains equally annoying with iCloud integration/upsells on both OSX and iOS. And nobody cares.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by Zardoz84 »

Syonyk wrote: post #32
noodleman wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They've been at it for years. I'd genuinely be surprised if this cracked the top 10 worst things Microsoft have done to Windows users. I think there would need to be a concerted effort at a grass-roots level, say from r/buildapc, to get new PC gamers onto an alternative for there to be a considerable shift away from Windows.

> ...to get new PC gamers onto an alternative for there to be a considerable shift away from Windows. Have you tried Steam on Linux? It works amazingly well, either with native Linux support in games or through Proton support (their Windows emulation layer). Quite a few people I know have gone that route and are shocked at just how well it works in practice.

It simply works. It's amazing what does now Wine/Proton

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by elorant »

Why is Win11 such a pain though? I don't get it. You had Win10 that worked just fine and they went on and fucked it up to what gain? Did they manage to sell more of other products in their lineup? And you do all that when Apple has its own silicon and produces superb laptops that could lure a lot of people in their ecosystem. I understand that Windows isn't the cash cow it used to be, they've moved to greener pastures like Azure, but still why mess up your main trademark product and piss off so many of your users? What's the end goal here?
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