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If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by WWWMMMWWW »

Voultapher wrote: post #8
WWWMMMWWW wrote: post #4

There's also AI's dark secret coming out -> it's very expensive to run. But it's still WAY cheaper than upper management salaries, so, to employ classic MBA logic, they are the optimal staff to replace so as to maximize cost savings.

Color me skeptical. The people making these decisions are not gonna cut their own jobs first, even if that made the most sense.

Step 1: the C-Suite sells out middle management in return for a bigger year end bonus.

Step 2: the CEO sells out the rest of the C-Suite for an even bigger year end bonus.

Step 3: the shareholders replace the CEO, promoting one of his now AI automated fellow C-suite, to maximize shareholder profit.

It's corporate hunger games ... just without winners.

Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by hashtag-til »

raincole wrote: post #44
vessenes wrote: post #23

A fair number of r/antiwork type takes on this below. Since this is HackerNews, let's follow through the logic -- if the AI you're running is the CEO, who are you? You're the owner / shareholder / (board if you want to be). This wave of AI is like giving a superpower to people who can direct/imagine/realize what they want, describe it, and (for now) glue together the output of the AI. A lot of the work is ongoing thi…

> Additionally, I think it's good to remember that among the people most threatened by this future, it's those who write for a living. Journalists, script writers and lawyers, essentially. An anecdote: I live in a non-english-speaking country. Most people in academic fields can speak and write English, but not as good as a native speaker. It's a common practice here before submitting an essay, you send it to a profes…

How is this different from grammarly, that has been around for many years?

This was a middleman job anyway, so it was just waiting to be removed, like travel agents.

Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by imgabe »

Then do it. LLMs are out there. Where are all the people founding billion dollar companies run by LLMs? Maybe they’re just quiet about it so everyone else doesn’t catch on.

If the article is not about the author starting a real company with AI that deposited real dollars into their bank account that they could spend, then I don’t see why anyone should care.

Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by sarchertech »

vessenes wrote: post #53
lettergram wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We'll have a core directable glued-together stack that can take instruction like "make me a shopify site to sell cute mini traffic cones that are oscar-the-grouch themed, but make sure they don't violate any copyright themes, make me 100 ads to sell them" by the end of 2024 lol I’d be VERY surprised if they can do that by the end of 2030. 1. You need relationships with manufacturers to do that 2. You need to valida…

I think you're very wrong about this timeline. 1. I've never sourced hardware, so I can't comment directly on manufacturers. I have done plenty of business in Asia, and, I have purchased from alibaba. One side of those alibaba transactions is definitely using AI translation already. I don't think manufacturers in Asia will care at all "who" is sourcing product from them. For speccing a car - sure, you're right that a…

$1000 to the charity of your choice that this isn’t available in any generalizable way before 2030.

Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by avidphantasm »

aussieguy1234 wrote: post #37

Software engineer here trying to start a startup. The amount of business advice GPT-4 has given me is immeasurable. I'd say I'm getting 10x more non technical business advice in multiple areas than I'm getting with the technical stuff. Kind of like an AI CEO advising me on what to do next.

Please disclose your startup name so that we can stay far far away from whatever havoc you unleash.

Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by lelag »

aussieguy1234 wrote: post #37

Software engineer here trying to start a startup. The amount of business advice GPT-4 has given me is immeasurable. I'd say I'm getting 10x more non technical business advice in multiple areas than I'm getting with the technical stuff. Kind of like an AI CEO advising me on what to do next.

The way I see the current crop of AI is that it has mastery of language and a very wide set of knowledge on many different areas but no deep understanding. Ask it about anything you are not very familiar with, and you will get something that looks like a really good answer. Yet, as soon as you try to poke it around subjects you do master, you quickly see its limits and shortcomings.

A few months ago, I tested its knowledge on precision machining, and not knowing much about the subject, I got what felt like really solid advice: I felt like it knew everything. Yet, when I reviewed what it told me with my dad, who used to work in the industry, he was not impressed: the answers were missing important bits of information or were sometimes plain wrong.

I do feel the current crop of AI is a game changer, but unless there is another breakthrough increasing its reasoning capabilities, I don't think human experts are at risk of losing their jobs anytime soon.

The current crop is disrupting occupations that deal purely with language: copywriters, translators...

Software engineers are probably very safe, but I believe that language specialists whose main skill is to deeply know a software stack will soon be hurting. I predict that software architecture and computer science skills mastery will become much more valuable than knowing a computer language syntax and associated API in depth. The AI will always be better than you at syntax now.

The place I see transformer-based models changing everything is human-computer interaction: voice and multimodality will soon become the main way humans interact with computers rather than mouse and keyboard, and this is huge.

However, I don't believe any GenAI model will be up to the task of running a company anytime soon, and I think that advice from a real CEO might prove immensely more useful than whatever GPT-4 is telling you.

GPT-4 is probably telling you the obvious—things you could have read on blog spam sites by googling your question. An experienced CEO would probably have unobvious and valuable insights that I don't believe you can get from ChatGPT at the moment.

Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by tossandthrow »

avidphantasm wrote: post #66
aussieguy1234 wrote: post #37

Software engineer here trying to start a startup. The amount of business advice GPT-4 has given me is immeasurable. I'd say I'm getting 10x more non technical business advice in multiple areas than I'm getting with the technical stuff. Kind of like an AI CEO advising me on what to do next.

Please disclose your startup name so that we can stay far far away from whatever havoc you unleash.

Wow

This is extremely rude and downright uncomfortable to read on a forum where people are supposed to be curious.

Who tf do you think you are?

Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by thih9 »

aussieguy1234 wrote: post #37

Software engineer here trying to start a startup. The amount of business advice GPT-4 has given me is immeasurable. I'd say I'm getting 10x more non technical business advice in multiple areas than I'm getting with the technical stuff. Kind of like an AI CEO advising me on what to do next.

Can you give a specific example?

I’m curious if it was useful because of the AI’s skills, or perhaps it was the conversation itself that helped, like in rubber duck debugging[1] or journaling.

In any case, interested to hear more details.

[1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging

Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by tossandthrow »

Jensson wrote: post #41
aussieguy1234 wrote: post #37

Software engineer here trying to start a startup. The amount of business advice GPT-4 has given me is immeasurable. I'd say I'm getting 10x more non technical business advice in multiple areas than I'm getting with the technical stuff. Kind of like an AI CEO advising me on what to do next.

> I'd say I'm getting 10x more non technical business advice in multiple areas than I'm getting with the technical stuff. Probably in large part because you can't verify when its wrong since that isn't your area of expertise, so those advice looks better to you. You should assume your org will be the same quality as a program written by a non-technical person using an LLM if you do it that way.

I was speaking to a fellow software engineer the other day. She has a tech lead on their team.

She reports that he is really nice, but some times he is insisting that he knows the working of some part of the system and is giving advice based on his understanding. Only thing is that he is wrong.

The software engineer needs to "de-hallucinate" him in order to get a proper answer.

I think we are at a time where we need not to categorically be critical about these things. Yes, preciseness is an issue. But there is a good chance that the LLM advice is on par with a random dude from a local accelerator.

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