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If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by loloquwowndueo »

j-bos wrote: post #47
Jensson wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'd say I'm getting 10x more non technical business advice in multiple areas than I'm getting with the technical stuff. Probably in large part because you can't verify when its wrong since that isn't your area of expertise, so those advice looks better to you. You should assume your org will be the same quality as a program written by a non-technical person using an LLM if you do it that way.

>You should assume your org will be the same quality as a program written by a non-technical person using an LLM if you do it that way. Only if OP is themself not somewhat business savvy

Way to ignore the first paragraph of the one you’re replying to where he says exactly this:

“ because you can't verify when its wrong since that isn't your area of expertise, so those advice looks better to you.”

Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by boolit »

Jensson wrote: post #41
aussieguy1234 wrote: post #37

Software engineer here trying to start a startup. The amount of business advice GPT-4 has given me is immeasurable. I'd say I'm getting 10x more non technical business advice in multiple areas than I'm getting with the technical stuff. Kind of like an AI CEO advising me on what to do next.

> I'd say I'm getting 10x more non technical business advice in multiple areas than I'm getting with the technical stuff. Probably in large part because you can't verify when its wrong since that isn't your area of expertise, so those advice looks better to you. You should assume your org will be the same quality as a program written by a non-technical person using an LLM if you do it that way.

This is a critical insight. Whenever I ask an LLM about a topic I’m knowledgeable about, I can detect that it spews a load of nonsense.

Talking to people in other fields, e.g., history and literature, they say it’s the same for them.

LLMs are only useful if you know the topic you’re asking questions about. Otherwise, they generate so much nonsense that you cannot verify, that trusting it becomes a liability.

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Post by vessenes »

lettergram wrote: post #33
vessenes wrote: post #23

A fair number of r/antiwork type takes on this below. Since this is HackerNews, let's follow through the logic -- if the AI you're running is the CEO, who are you? You're the owner / shareholder / (board if you want to be). This wave of AI is like giving a superpower to people who can direct/imagine/realize what they want, describe it, and (for now) glue together the output of the AI. A lot of the work is ongoing thi…

> We'll have a core directable glued-together stack that can take instruction like "make me a shopify site to sell cute mini traffic cones that are oscar-the-grouch themed, but make sure they don't violate any copyright themes, make me 100 ads to sell them" by the end of 2024 lol I’d be VERY surprised if they can do that by the end of 2030. 1. You need relationships with manufacturers to do that 2. You need to valida…

I think you're very wrong about this timeline.

1. I've never sourced hardware, so I can't comment directly on manufacturers. I have done plenty of business in Asia, and, I have purchased from alibaba. One side of those alibaba transactions is definitely using AI translation already. I don't think manufacturers in Asia will care at all "who" is sourcing product from them. For speccing a car - sure, you're right that a relationship is needed (and probably will involve doing some drinking near the factory). For speccing injection mold / printable goods? I'm skeptical that this is cut and dried in favor of humans with IRL relationships.

2. Trivially done by an AI; "Mr. Bossman do you want to validate this sample, or have me hire someone to do it?"

3. This is demonstrably untrue; OpenAI disagrees with you about this, for instance. ChatGPT pre-instructions include multiple paragraphs about this topic already. (here's a link to info about it if you're curious: https://x.com/krishnanrohit/status/1755122786014724125/photo...)

Generative AI that can spell correctly is here now, although not widely commercially deployed, but is in no way needed to AI CEO things.

My experience as the 'gluer' is that the most recent visual/multimodel models are good enough to, say, fix a CSS bug in HTML they wrote by looking at a screenshot of the output. So, I'd say the opposite is true in my experience -- with multimodal feedback, they are able to self correct.

Anyway, to me this doesn't add up to 2030. Maybe for the snazzy mac app version. But, I think we are VERY close right now, and it is a major engineering effort at OpenAI and Microsoft to get there quickly.

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Post by bee_rider »

123yawaworht456 wrote: post #10

the only jobs "AI" will take in the foreseeable future is the journos'. And That's a Good Thing - Here's Why.

A journalist’s job is to investigate something, then write it up. Just like a scientist really. If the AI lets either party partially automate the final step (and that’s all it is, automation, they are still your words in the sense that you are responsible for them), that might leave them with more effort for the more important former step, the actual job, the investigation.

Opinion-piece writers are screwed though.

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Post by yownv »

vessenes wrote: post #23

A fair number of r/antiwork type takes on this below. Since this is HackerNews, let's follow through the logic -- if the AI you're running is the CEO, who are you? You're the owner / shareholder / (board if you want to be). This wave of AI is like giving a superpower to people who can direct/imagine/realize what they want, describe it, and (for now) glue together the output of the AI. A lot of the work is ongoing thi…

https://id.crimethinc.com/2018/09/03/the-mythology-of-work-e...

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Post by sebzim4500 »

boolit wrote: post #52
Jensson wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'd say I'm getting 10x more non technical business advice in multiple areas than I'm getting with the technical stuff. Probably in large part because you can't verify when its wrong since that isn't your area of expertise, so those advice looks better to you. You should assume your org will be the same quality as a program written by a non-technical person using an LLM if you do it that way.

This is a critical insight. Whenever I ask an LLM about a topic I’m knowledgeable about, I can detect that it spews a load of nonsense. Talking to people in other fields, e.g., history and literature, they say it’s the same for them. LLMs are only useful if you know the topic you’re asking questions about. Otherwise, they generate so much nonsense that you cannot verify, that trusting it becomes a liability.

Depends what the topic is.

IME it hallucines rarely when asked practical programming questions but basically constantly when asked math questions beyond basic calculus.

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Post by goshx »

Jensson wrote: post #41
aussieguy1234 wrote: post #37

Software engineer here trying to start a startup. The amount of business advice GPT-4 has given me is immeasurable. I'd say I'm getting 10x more non technical business advice in multiple areas than I'm getting with the technical stuff. Kind of like an AI CEO advising me on what to do next.

> I'd say I'm getting 10x more non technical business advice in multiple areas than I'm getting with the technical stuff. Probably in large part because you can't verify when its wrong since that isn't your area of expertise, so those advice looks better to you. You should assume your org will be the same quality as a program written by a non-technical person using an LLM if you do it that way.

The same can be said for a human CEO.

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Post by bena »

bravetraveler wrote: post #6
WWWMMMWWW wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

which means you don't need the man to feed it

Nor the dog to distract the man! Perpetual motion discovered; nothing shall ever break or change in this factory Strikes me as odd. Why have either? We're clearly in a fairytale - I just lack context. Probably a complaint with some creative color

It’s a joke about how automated processes will become.

And to be fair, you could have machines repairing machines. It’s basically how we operate. Some humans do the work, some fix the others

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Post by qp11 »

hubraumhugo wrote: post #45

I'm a bit surprised that we currently see so many sensational headlines on HN. There was just another one on the front page: "Anthropic Chief of Staff: These next 3 years might be the last few that I work." AI is useful and not just hype, but we don't see any larger shifts in the labor market or economy. Will AI automate tedious repetitive tasks, such as form filling, data analysis, and data entry? Yes, absolutely. W…

And there will be lot of jobs to clean up all the mistakes AI makes (currently being hidden or swept under the carpet to keep valuations up).
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