I mean it's cool, but how about getting some basics like punctuality and cleanliness right first.
Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"
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The impact isn't merely aesthetic. For one thing, it can be costly to remove graffiti. And when it's on publicly owned property, who pays for that removal? The public, of course. If, for example, a train is the target of graffiti, it will often need to be taken out of service. This, then, results in a degraded service to the travelling public. Furthermore, graffiti artists often put themselves in dangerous situations…
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Broken window theory. Once a few things have graffiti, it will quickly proliferate including stuff that isn't exactly aesthetic.
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Dunno dude. If my bank is robbed there’s no real impact to me - all the money is insured. If someone graffitis my house then it looks horrible and I have to spend time and money cleaning it up.
How many times has that happened to you?
I don’t know, it’s not like the bank publishes heist metrics :)
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I can also start a subculture about competing for the best type of bank robberies, doesn't make bank robberies a nice thing to do. But yeah fascinating
When graffiti is done on public owned objects or walls, it's impact is merely aesthetic. Not like a bank robbery. And I'd rather see graffiti, even if I find some ugly, than ads all over. And there's way more public ads anywhere than graffiti. I think local urban expressions like stickers and graffiti is pretty cool. The mainstream prefers ads I guess.
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Graffiti makes world more beautiful the same way as ads do. It is a vandalism and you shouldn't normalize it.
https://w0.peakpx.com/wallpaper/697/794/HD-wallpaper-graffit... You don't get to tell me what I find beautiful.
> You don't get to tell me what I find beautiful
Right. That’s the point. In public spaces, the public has chosen what it believes to be beautiful. Illegal graffiti is one person forcing their aesthetics on everyone.
Plenty of cities have surfaces that are open to being grafitti’d. In those cases, the artists bothered to think about others before taking unilateral action.
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Yes because they don't have to be empattic right? And society has to accept any bs they come up with
You know what? You’re right. I guess people should be permanently maimed or disfigured for creating art in a location you disprove of. Keep it up.
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> The impact isn't merely aesthetic. For one thing, it can be costly to remove graffiti. The cost incurred here is a choice the owner makes when they disagree with the aesthetics of the graffiti.
But that cost is not paid by the person creating the graffiti. The owner has a cost forced on them. The aesthetic argument here is trying to validate a violent act. A lot of graffiti is beautiful, but that doesn’t mean it’s okay.
What violent act?
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> The impact isn't merely aesthetic. For one thing, it can be costly to remove graffiti. The cost incurred here is a choice the owner makes when they disagree with the aesthetics of the graffiti.
We're talking about public property here. Many authorities have a 'no tolerance' approach to graffiti. Even if it looks nice, it will be removed. There is a belief that removing graffiti quickly discourages it. If graffiti artists find that their work won't last long, they may be discouraged from doing it in the first place. Aesthetics doesn't really come into it.
I dunno about the entirety of Germany, but I don't think I've ever seen graffiti removed in Berlin, and there's a ton of it. It's fine, nobody cares.