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If 147 in 3 years is "a meaningful amount of people" then we're gonna need to ban a lot of other stuff to stay consistent.
Like lakes, for example.
Earthquakes.
Psychedelics researcher approached his death with calm and curiosity
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#62Griffiths was the driving force behind mainstream acceptance of psychedelic medicine with his work at Johns Hopkins. He showed that psilocybin was not only effective but was the most effective treatment for terminal psychiatric care and addiction, and he did it all within the mode of academic medical research. I hope his death was painless. A great scientist deserves no less.
it was his character in combo with the delics. this kind of treatment can only be taught if aspiring teacher/psych/shrink is super-rational and NOT at all if said person is rational (=pseudo-rational)
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#63How is this different from escaping problems through drug use?
Confronting problems with medicinal assistance.
Intention makes a difference.
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I'm not a psychedelic researcher, but I have taken psychedelics, and I recently wrote "Strange trip: Psychedelics and confronting the fear of death:" https://jakeseliger.com/2023/09/25/strange-trip-psychedelics... , which covers similar themes.
Your blog is deeply moving, thank you for posting the link. When my time comes, I hope I accept it with the equanimity and grace you display.
Thank you and you're welcome, too!
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I'm not a psychedelic researcher, but I have taken psychedelics, and I recently wrote "Strange trip: Psychedelics and confronting the fear of death:" https://jakeseliger.com/2023/09/25/strange-trip-psychedelics... , which covers similar themes.
A beautiful read, thank you for sharing. May you and your partner be well.
Thank you and you're welcome, too!
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The problem here is acceptance of one’s mortality. What solution do you propose?
Accept it fully.
It seems you're nearing the message. How does one accept that fully? What do we do in the face of struggles with what may be the greatest struggle a human being ever faces? Could there be some technique that could help? What would that technique look like? Could it include the ingestion of a substance? If ingesting said substance along with guided meditation was vastly superior to all other techniques of death acceptance, would that be avoiding the problem with drugs?
I think what you're not understanding is that taking the drug is the death acceptance technique. It is the thing that allows these people to quickly transition into peace. Do you have a better way? Could you please share that so all of our dying family members could finally have the simple solution you seem to be aware of?
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Yes. Instead of escaping, let's solve the problem instead.
Why do you think the former precludes the latter? This seems to be like if someone comes to a doctor with an arrow stuck through him, someone saying "don't give him any pain killers, that's bad. Just take the arrow out so the problem is solved." You should obviously remove the arrow to correct the root cause, but you don't need to deny the patient pain killers in order to do so. Judging him morally or legally for wan…
For me it depends on context; Pain exists for a purpose (i.e don't put wait on a broken leg otherwise you could extend healing time or make things worse) but if technology allows us to mitigate the potential problems (i.e fixing the bone and apply a cast will allow you to walk but not add strain) getting ride of pain in the meantime is probably a net good.
If you have chronic pain of some sort and you use substances to mask that pain the root problem hasn't been addressed and still exists, you just won't be aware of it. If loosing awareness (which at its simplest is what painkillers do) of the ongoing problem is okey with you by all means take a substance to mask it, just don't be surprised when the original problem grows worse latter.
Im okey with people masking or not masking. It should be a personal choice free of judgement.
There are two guys and both are extremely depressed. One guy decides to seek out a therapist and has a meeting set for two weeks from now, the other guy decides to take MDMA/LSD/shrooms (or whatever) every day. He feels amazing and is living his best life every day. The first guy is super depressed day to day but maybe the therapy will help...
The next week they are on a plane together that crashes. Who made the better decision?
Alternatively they don't die and instead live decades more. The first guy got to the root of his issues and lived a very happy life while the second eventually burned out and fell into even deeper depression for his remaining years. Who made the better decision?
It is not fair for us to judge others on how they would like to treat their own bodies and minds. We don't know the totality of their path through life.
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The problem to be solved in this case is unnecessary distress and pain about one's inevitable death.
And how do you solve that
One common solution is the hospice system. There's no silver bullet for any of this and it's a bit irksome see so many comments treating this like a "5 whys" exercise