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Psychedelics researcher approached his death with calm and curiosity

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I wish there was more support to not just decriminalize but legalize psychedelics broadly. I know there are plenty of ongoing clinical trials, but the collection of Psilocybin, LSD, Mescaline, Ibogaine is genuinely a treasure chest and probably the best thing that has happened to medicine in a long time, if not ever. Edit: i highly recommend watching Michael Pollan's "How to change your mind" (Netflix documentary). h…

Psychdelics can and do kill meaningful amount of people, almost exclusively due to injuries while under their affects. 147 psychedelic deaths over three years - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1523208/ I'll have to find a youtube video but there's a good one with one of the psychdelic guru's describing a trip where had mis-dosed (he didn't realize the mushrooms he was consuming were significantly stronge…

How did the guy end up with 2 different neophyte people they were instructing in dangerous situations and sharing that. Let's not mince word, if the first had started the carit would be a dangerous situation. In college with alcohol wed stick a sober watcher over the pre-frosh who decided to drink the first time away from home.

Having just one go slightly sideways would make me really cautious. I was because freshman year I found some random pre-frosh who had hidden in a closet cause they thought they'd be in trouble (they were not, wet campus) who needed help.

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When you say legalize broadly i guess you mean allow doctors to prescribe it to their patients with proper protocols and not just allow anyone to buy it over the counter?

When I talk about legalising drugs, I mean being able to buy them with the same level of control as beer or cigarettes.

Because beer and cigarettes are both mind-altering drugs yet get a pass because of mostly-economic reasons.

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I wish there was more support to not just decriminalize but legalize psychedelics broadly. I know there are plenty of ongoing clinical trials, but the collection of Psilocybin, LSD, Mescaline, Ibogaine is genuinely a treasure chest and probably the best thing that has happened to medicine in a long time, if not ever. Edit: i highly recommend watching Michael Pollan's "How to change your mind" (Netflix documentary). h…

Psychdelics can and do kill meaningful amount of people, almost exclusively due to injuries while under their affects. 147 psychedelic deaths over three years - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1523208/ I'll have to find a youtube video but there's a good one with one of the psychdelic guru's describing a trip where had mis-dosed (he didn't realize the mushrooms he was consuming were significantly stronge…

If 147 in 3 years is "a meaningful amount of people" then we're gonna need to ban a lot of other stuff to stay consistent.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Psychdelics can and do kill meaningful amount of people, almost exclusively due to injuries while under their affects. 147 psychedelic deaths over three years - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1523208/ I'll have to find a youtube video but there's a good one with one of the psychdelic guru's describing a trip where had mis-dosed (he didn't realize the mushrooms he was consuming were significantly stronge…

If 147 in 3 years is "a meaningful amount of people" then we're gonna need to ban a lot of other stuff to stay consistent.

Like lakes, for example.

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How is this different from escaping problems through drug use?

Is it fair to infer that you have a value judgment on escaping problems through drug use, and think it's wrong or bad? If so, why?

Yes. Instead of escaping, let's solve the problem instead.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I talk about legalising drugs, I mean being able to buy them with the same level of control as beer or cigarettes.

Because beer and cigarettes are both mind-altering drugs yet get a pass because of mostly-economic reasons.

Not economic, historical. It's purely because both were things before the puritan movement (which still greatly impacts society today) and people are already familiar with them. If alcohol were discovered today, there's no way in hell it would be legal

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I wish there was more support to not just decriminalize but legalize psychedelics broadly. I know there are plenty of ongoing clinical trials, but the collection of Psilocybin, LSD, Mescaline, Ibogaine is genuinely a treasure chest and probably the best thing that has happened to medicine in a long time, if not ever. Edit: i highly recommend watching Michael Pollan's "How to change your mind" (Netflix documentary). h…

Psychdelics can and do kill meaningful amount of people, almost exclusively due to injuries while under their affects. 147 psychedelic deaths over three years - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1523208/ I'll have to find a youtube video but there's a good one with one of the psychdelic guru's describing a trip where had mis-dosed (he didn't realize the mushrooms he was consuming were significantly stronge…

Why was he trying to start his car? I'm glad he couldn't figure it out otherwise he could have killed someone. This is a personal responsibility thing.

Re: Psychedelics researcher approached his death with calm and curiosity

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For those so inclined, Tara Brach had a lovely interview with Roland early this year: https://overcast.fm/+SWwgtYFDM From the podcast summary: Meditation, Psychedelics, Mortality: A conversation with Tara and Roland Griffiths - Roland is a long-term meditator, a psychopharmacologist and professor at Johns Hopkins, and a leader in researching the clinical effects of psychedelics, including their impact on those strugg…

I'm not a psychedelic researcher, but I have taken psychedelics, and I recently wrote "Strange trip: Psychedelics and confronting the fear of death:" https://jakeseliger.com/2023/09/25/strange-trip-psychedelics... , which covers similar themes.

A beautiful read, thank you for sharing. May you and your partner be well.

Re: Psychedelics researcher approached his death with calm and curiosity

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it fair to infer that you have a value judgment on escaping problems through drug use, and think it's wrong or bad? If so, why?

Yes. Instead of escaping, let's solve the problem instead.

Why do you think the former precludes the latter?

This seems to be like if someone comes to a doctor with an arrow stuck through him, someone saying "don't give him any pain killers, that's bad. Just take the arrow out so the problem is solved."

You should obviously remove the arrow to correct the root cause, but you don't need to deny the patient pain killers in order to do so. Judging him morally or legally for wanting them doesn't make sense to me, short of claiming that an unprovable all powerful being who talks to man only through extremely unreliable and non reproducable channels has revealed to us that it's actually a sin.

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