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Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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Emissions tests are a poverty tax that play a strong role in punishing people trying to buy affordable old cars and either pushing the demand curve for new cars, or pushing poor people into illegality or carlessness.

Under current economic conditions almost any tax that doesn't explicitly target high earners and high net worth individuals is a poverty tax. Fixing economic inequality is the appropriate place to deal with this problem, not reasonable taxes like emissions tests.

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

#62

My understanding is that such parts are not by themselves illegal. The crime is actually using them on the road. My understanding was that they were legal for track purposes. I would never want to say that people should be able to defeat emissions, but a part of me does not like the idea that every vehicle owner is beholden to the OEM for parts in perpetuity. The "right to repair" people should be all over this fight…

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>> more governmental regulation, such as the right to repair itself.

Wanting more personal freedoms is generally considered a right-wing view. Creating a right to repair is about placing limits on corporations, not actual people. Try telling people that they can only use "original" parts in their guns and suddenly the entire NRA will be on the streets demanding a constitutional amendment in support of right-to-repair. This isn't a left-right political thing. It is a persons v. corporations issue, with government as the representative of the people.

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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What about silencers/suppressors? Haven't looked for a while, but it used to be fairly common to be able to find them on both Amazon and eBay, usually listed as "lawnmower mufflers", with pretty un-subtle hints: "This lawnmower muffler fits a 9mm exhaust and you can bang around your back yard all morning without disturbing your neighbor."

Not sure why you're being downvoted, that's a legitimate question. The ATF spends a lot of time going after illegal silencers (usually sold as 'oil filters') but they generally focus on end users who buy in quantity or the manufacturers who 3d print them. Have not heard of them going after marketplaces like eBay, but then again marketplaces generally bend over backwards to maintain compliance with firearm regs because they don't want to see a headline like 'mass shooter bought weapons on ebay'.

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

#66

This is wonderful. I wish they did the same about modifications done to increase the noise. I've got 2 people living nearby that both have straight-piped their car and I literally cover my ears when they pass by. My Watch literally tells me that a noise peak happened when they drive by.

Your municipality likely has noise ordinances for anything above a certain decibel level. This can be handled by your local PD giving them tickets for their exhausts. I’ve seen it done before. If they keep getting tickets/fines they will likely change their exhausts. You can probably call the city about it but you can also call the cops. Just remember what they say about snitches.

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The right to repair people are leftists I think this is an oversimplification at best. Right-to-repair has huge support amongst e.g. farmers, who are not homogeneously left-leaning by any stretch.

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What a bizarre argument. I don't think "business regulation" is the only or even the primary dimension of the left vs right axis.

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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Anything to avoid regulating real change right? Why save huge amounts of emissions by mandating slight changes to over the road trucks and commercial users when you can instead harass regular (well asshole) drivers?

We can do two things. The big problem is the lack of emissions regulation (or even proposed) on the commercial vehicles. However, that isn't something the legislative branch can do by themselves (either EPA or DoJ), requires congressional action.

Its so sad realizing how we have all these fixes available to the worlds problems, but the fact they depend on the stakeholders in question to take a loss means they won’t be implemented without a protracted legal battle that might never meaningfully resolve. All this technological progress ossified by the profits gained from the status quo.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I don't know about the political leanings of right to repair supporters on average, but there are prominent supports who I certainly wouldn't characterize as leftist. See Louis Rossman for example.

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