...and that's why smart people avoid enterprises.
You're crap and paid too much for the little work you actually do
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Re: You're crap and paid too much for the little work you actually do
#62This is sarcasm, right? All of these things are clear warnings that it's time to flee that company for your life. You get paid what you get paid because someone else is willing to pay you more. The market is competitive and you're being hired by your peers, who recognize the value of "making the backup 50% faster". If you wear a tie and are trying to become a Managing Director at Merrill Lynch, then yes, you need to…
No. This is non-fiction in finance. "Dominic Connor is a City headhunter at QF Search with a sideline in teaching C++ to bankers", he's also a well-known and respectable enough online personality. Such evidence also provides a basis for many explanations (appealing to the financial products being to complex) of the 2008 global financial crisis. I've once played with the idea of a career in quantitative finance, but s…
Oh, it's Dominic. The first person I didn't already know to follow me on G+. He's dedicated to his chosen profession, I'll give him that.
Re: You're crap and paid too much for the little work you actually do
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Come on, seriously. A team of 20 ships a product and some junior engineer buys everybody a dinner out, incl all the bosses and their bosses? Yeah, OK, that's one way of making all your peers feel really awkward and uncomfortable. And wondering what the little suckup is up to.
Wow. I didn't realize there is actually peer pressure in IT companies not to use knowledge of social relationships and human nature for your own benefit. In my opinion, the general unwillingness of computer workers to stand up for their own rights and interests is keeping our entire profession back from getting the money and respect it deserves. If we actively sabotage efforts of people who are trying to improve thin…
A lot of IT people just want an easy life - doing what they [used to] love, and gradually progress up the chain based on their skills and experience. People who take short-cuts like this probably don't care about the work, their focus is manipulating their way up the organisation.
Re: You're crap and paid too much for the little work you actually do
#64I wish I had written this. If the humor/cynicism gets to you please power through and look at the actionable tips which will earn you more money . There is approximately no-one on HN, not even at the best managed firms with the least BS imaginable, who would not experience positive ROI from "Congrats guys, we just shipped X, let's have a celebratory dinner at $FAVORITE and I'm buying." That idea is freaking genius .…
Come on, seriously. A team of 20 ships a product and some junior engineer buys everybody a dinner out, incl all the bosses and their bosses? Yeah, OK, that's one way of making all your peers feel really awkward and uncomfortable. And wondering what the little suckup is up to.
maybe you don't need to buy the whole company dinner, just bake a cake , grab a case of beer or something.
Re: You're crap and paid too much for the little work you actually do
#65I wish I had written this. If the humor/cynicism gets to you please power through and look at the actionable tips which will earn you more money . There is approximately no-one on HN, not even at the best managed firms with the least BS imaginable, who would not experience positive ROI from "Congrats guys, we just shipped X, let's have a celebratory dinner at $FAVORITE and I'm buying." That idea is freaking genius .…
True, Blow your trumpet and blow it louder. That always helps. Your accomplishments are nothing until you successfully explain it to others and let them know you did it. Keeping things to yourself and telling no one appreciates your genius never works.
The problem is getting people to understand the accomplishment especially if you have to do some heroic hack to get something mundane but important to work.
Like this xkcd
Re: You're crap and paid too much for the little work you actually do
#66I wish I had written this. If the humor/cynicism gets to you please power through and look at the actionable tips which will earn you more money . There is approximately no-one on HN, not even at the best managed firms with the least BS imaginable, who would not experience positive ROI from "Congrats guys, we just shipped X, let's have a celebratory dinner at $FAVORITE and I'm buying." That idea is freaking genius .…
Come on, seriously. A team of 20 ships a product and some junior engineer buys everybody a dinner out, incl all the bosses and their bosses? Yeah, OK, that's one way of making all your peers feel really awkward and uncomfortable. And wondering what the little suckup is up to.
To be fair to the author of the original article, he suggests buying a round at the pub, which isn't quite on the same scale as buying dinner out for everyone. In the UK that would only be appropriate if you were the manager of the team in question & you had reached a significant milestone in development IMO.
Reciprocal buying of rounds on the other hand is standard issue UK social lubricant. Using "We shipped, yay!" as an excuse to make your's the next round would be exactly the right thing to do.
Re: You're crap and paid too much for the little work you actually do
#67This is sarcasm, right? All of these things are clear warnings that it's time to flee that company for your life. You get paid what you get paid because someone else is willing to pay you more. The market is competitive and you're being hired by your peers, who recognize the value of "making the backup 50% faster". If you wear a tie and are trying to become a Managing Director at Merrill Lynch, then yes, you need to…
No, it is not. This is the reason big conglomerates should be split with an axe and left to the vultures.
They are super inefficient because they have incompetents in place that can't measure the real value created by their workers but also because as a company grows bigger and bigger you forget who is your customer and start playing the Soviet Russia central planning trick of "looking like you work is more important than working".
When those big companies like banks show looses, we join them together creating bigger monsters that parasites real economy even more. They then use tricks and more tricks to hide the reality(GM or Enron) so the party continues one more day.
But one day the party will be over for them.
Re: You're crap and paid too much for the little work you actually do
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Come on, seriously. A team of 20 ships a product and some junior engineer buys everybody a dinner out, incl all the bosses and their bosses? Yeah, OK, that's one way of making all your peers feel really awkward and uncomfortable. And wondering what the little suckup is up to.
To be fair to the author of the original article, he suggests buying a round at the pub, which isn't quite on the same scale as buying dinner out for everyone. In the UK that would only be appropriate if you were the manager of the team in question & you had reached a significant milestone in development IMO. Reciprocal buying of rounds on the other hand is standard issue UK social lubricant. Using "We shipped, yay!"…
Exactly , but if your working in a large non IT business you have the problem of getting people who are not in the IT dept to show up at the pub. Especially the movers and shakers.
Re: You're crap and paid too much for the little work you actually do
#69A bit one-sided argument, but might be very common in some large companies. Indeed, if you're in the situation described in the article, the best bet is to play the game, knowing the constraints, and to do the least work for the most bang. If you actually want to enjoy your work, having a chance to create something new/different/efficient, in the environment where your "boss" is your peer, and your boss understand th…
I think this article is aimed at people in the UK where there is not much of a startup culture except in a small handful of places.
It also seem to be more aimed at general IT/tech/MCSE type guys rather than developers who are probably in less demand for startups.
Re: You're crap and paid too much for the little work you actually do
#70Bear in mind that this from The Register whose audience is much more skewed towards those working in large corporates, BOFHs and PFYs than the typical audience here. For me the key sentence to the whole article is "Your boss has no idea if you’re good at your job." Why do we do such a bad job of developing people who are good managers/leaders AND understand technology? There seems to be this idea that IT folks are "s…
"Why do we do such a bad job of developing people who are good managers/leaders AND understand technology?"
I know people that are really good at both, they exist and I personally know some of them. It is a pleasure to work with them and they create good teams. They group in clusters, they want to work with people like them.
People like Elon Musk(he was a was programmer, studied physics and business degrees) or Mark Shuterworth are famous and rich but there is also a lot of them around if you know where to search, people that understand technology and people. Try to deceive them with BS!
A lot of people are not so lucky though to work with them. A company have a soul and a culture. Once your living environment is stale you start to believe that is THE world, and your survival skills make you to adapt and become part of the problem yourself, like this man cynic strategy(he uses it because it works in his contaminated environment).