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AI cameras catch 297 drivers in three days in Cornwall

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Re: AI cameras catch 297 drivers in three days in Cornwall

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Post by barbazoo »

hashstring wrote: post #52
barbazoo wrote: post #29

I am looking to set up something like this in my neighborhood. I have a pretty good angle frpmy house. We live on a narrow street with parks on either side, a crosswalk, daycares, really a place where you want to pay attention and drive slowly. Yet every day I see people on their phones. I just don't get it. All it takes is one kid making a mistake and running on the road at the wrong moment. Happened couple of weeks…

There is an important issue to be fixed here, yes. It’s heartbreaking when this happens and I fully agree that there should be more checks in place to prevent this. However, I am very glad that I live in a country where you are not allowed to record and process this because it’s a violation of my privacy. I do not think that this is the solution.

> I am very glad that I live in a country where you are not allowed to record and process this

Hehe, I don't even know if I do but honestly I'd be happy to let it come to it. Sometimes it takes a little escalation to bring about change. For sure I'll have a look though to see what the law says here.

I know how selfish I am here but I value my kids' and my community's kids safety higher than other people's privacy. And it's not that I'd publicize the footage. Not even the offenders'. Yet :)

> I do not think that this is the solution.

I can't wait for someone to implement a "solution" because that usually requires people actually dying.

Re: AI cameras catch 297 drivers in three days in Cornwall

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Post by [deleted] »

ggambetta wrote: post #16

I'm surprised by the early reactions here. Looking at the picture in the article, of a driver texting while the passenger holds the wheel (!!!), my first reaction is "OH YES PLEASE GET THESE INCREDIBLY IRRESPONSIBLE PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS ASAP". I don't want to die because some idiot is texting while driving. Whether these idiots are caught by a human looking attentively 24/7 or by a high-speed camera with an AI flag…

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Re: AI cameras catch 297 drivers in three days in Cornwall

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Post by bayesianbot »

nodomain wrote: post #22

The most pressing question to me is: Why don't you wear a seat belt? How can humans be that stupid, sparing 1 second of time when entering the car? I really don't understand it.

I'm living in Northern Thailand and I'm wondering this daily. Thailand has about the most dangerous traffic in the world, lots and lots of people dying annually compared to the size of the population, but still constantly I see people, even with their kids, driving a motorbike without their helmets on. It's actually almost rare to see a good helmet, it's either nothing or a mostly useless bowl to avoid fines by the police. If I tell people I won't drive in some situation as I don't have my helmet, they'll just tell me there's no police on the way..

Though in here I think big part is religion - karma / Buddha protects good people, and most people feel they're good people, so their life is already protected, you'd just think they'd get it some day as the fatal road accident numbers are so high every year and everyone knows someone who was "a good person" but is now dead from traffic..

Re: AI cameras catch 297 drivers in three days in Cornwall

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Post by carimura »

ur-whale wrote: post #53
elil17 wrote: post #32

I do understand the privacy arguments, but there are thousands of people are being killed by drivers every day (many of whom aren't even in cars, they're walking or biking). Enforcing traffic laws is one of the only tools for fixing this that can be implemented quickly (as opposed to better urban design and public transit, which are better solutions in many other ways). I feel like their should be room to advocate fo…

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the dystopian nightmare of state-controlled restricted movement because of (fill in scary threat) is increasingly becoming a reality. that said, driving down the road it seems like 20% of drivers are glued to their phones and one evasive braking action away from slamming into my car with my kids in it. We should try and solve for both. More police? Faster deployment of driverless cars?

Re: AI cameras catch 297 drivers in three days in Cornwall

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Post by kvonhorn »

elil17 wrote: post #32

I do understand the privacy arguments, but there are thousands of people are being killed by drivers every day (many of whom aren't even in cars, they're walking or biking). Enforcing traffic laws is one of the only tools for fixing this that can be implemented quickly (as opposed to better urban design and public transit, which are better solutions in many other ways). I feel like their should be room to advocate fo…

> good oversight of police departments

Where I'm from, the police actively resist oversight, and have not responsibly used many of the systems they already possess.

Re: AI cameras catch 297 drivers in three days in Cornwall

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Post by elil17 »

ur-whale wrote: post #53
elil17 wrote: post #32

I do understand the privacy arguments, but there are thousands of people are being killed by drivers every day (many of whom aren't even in cars, they're walking or biking). Enforcing traffic laws is one of the only tools for fixing this that can be implemented quickly (as opposed to better urban design and public transit, which are better solutions in many other ways). I feel like their should be room to advocate fo…

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The police already have access to a ton of cameras everywhere (which I do agree is bad)! The only thing changing here is that they are now using those cameras to stop maniacs on the road.

Re: AI cameras catch 297 drivers in three days in Cornwall

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Post by psd1 »

wuliwong wrote: post #42
kyralis wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't call "requiring drivers to not be using mobile phones" a "tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims". It's for the good of everyone else on the road, and, in the case of seatbelts, for the good of the rest of society that needs to deal with the burden of caring for unnecessary injuries due to failing to take such a basic precaution.

> the good of the rest of society that needs to deal with the burden of caring for unnecessary injuries I understand that point of view but I do think it can be tyrannical to not let people live their lives even if they are making decisions that are bad for their physical health. In the US, obesity is a far greater burden on our health care system than people not wearing seatbelts. I still can't get behind fining peo…

No, that's not the point at all. Inattentive driving is a risk to others. Risk of death or life-changing injury.

Re: AI cameras catch 297 drivers in three days in Cornwall

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Post by gorlilla »

elil17 wrote: post #32

I do understand the privacy arguments, but there are thousands of people are being killed by drivers every day (many of whom aren't even in cars, they're walking or biking). Enforcing traffic laws is one of the only tools for fixing this that can be implemented quickly (as opposed to better urban design and public transit, which are better solutions in many other ways). I feel like their should be room to advocate fo…

Every camera system in my state (OH) has proven to be nothing more than a cash grab that mostly enriched the private entities that ran the cameras/administration.

They passed laws to allow it by crying safety; but then botched the entire deployment by being the greedy nepotistic politicians they are.

AI isn't suited to fix any of the underlying problems here.

[0]https://www.techdirt.com/tag/red-light-cameras/

Re: AI cameras catch 297 drivers in three days in Cornwall

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Post by elil17 »

gorlilla wrote: post #68
elil17 wrote: post #32

I do understand the privacy arguments, but there are thousands of people are being killed by drivers every day (many of whom aren't even in cars, they're walking or biking). Enforcing traffic laws is one of the only tools for fixing this that can be implemented quickly (as opposed to better urban design and public transit, which are better solutions in many other ways). I feel like their should be room to advocate fo…

Every camera system in my state (OH) has proven to be nothing more than a cash grab that mostly enriched the private entities that ran the cameras/administration. They passed laws to allow it by crying safety; but then botched the entire deployment by being the greedy nepotistic politicians they are. AI isn't suited to fix any of the underlying problems here. [0] https://www.techdirt.com/tag/red-light-cameras/

If people are calling it a "cash grab," that means it's working in my opinion. Even a ticketing system contract was awarded in a corrupt manner (which is wrong of course - and the people involved in that should be prosecuted), every person who gets a ticket from one of those systems is someone who was going over the speed limit or running the red light and putting the lives of everyone around them in danger.
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