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Re: New study gives clues on why exercise helps with inflammation

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Post by mandmandam » Sun, Jul 16, 2023, 8:17 PM UTC

jb1991 wrote: post #57

mandmandam wrote: post #51

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> There is also evidence that Wim Hof's abilities are not related to his lifestyle I think you're misinterpreting the point of that study. "A lifestyle with frequent exposures to extreme cold does not seem to affect BAT activity and CIT (cold-induced thermogenesis)" is not the same thing as "Wim Hof's abilities are not related to his lifestyle." Wim teaches people to do what he does. He has trained people to do some…

I am well aware of his methods, I'm just pointing out that someone with identical genetics to him had similar abilities despite never doing any of the stuff Wim does. It is a point worth making.

> It is a point worth making.

Do you mean, in relation to the OP's claim that Wim Hof training is "unlikely to help you"? How so?

Re: New study gives clues on why exercise helps with inflammation

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Post by canucker2016 » Sun, Jul 16, 2023, 10:18 PM UTC

oarfish wrote: post #10

winrid wrote: post #8

It also seems like eating carbs is terrible for inflammation. If I go slightly over normal carb intake my knee/foot will hurt. I have screws in there and I bet it's extra sensitive to inflammation.

Any source for relevant clinical outcomes? Sounds like medically unsubstantiated anectdote.

Peter Attia talked with Dr. Rick Johnson (nephrologist - kidney doctor) about Fructose and Uric acid.

see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V02z9mqTWzg

High uric acid causes high blood pressure as well as gout.

High amounts of fructose, when digested, causes inflammation, and results in elevated uric acid.

Your body can digest small amounts of fructose in your intestines, which is why eating fruits (along with the higher fibre content) doesn't cause the ensuing inflammation.

Purines in beer can also result in high uric acid.

The inflammation from high intake of fructose causes your body to go into fat storage mode from fat-burning mode (bears/birds will increase fructose intake to increase fat storage before their long hibernation/migration south).

As humans get older, their body will adjust to convert glucose into fructose when sodium levels increase (by the time you notice your thirst from eating salty foods, your body has already switched into glucose->fructose conversion). read statements above to see what happens when your body processes fructose.

Re: New study gives clues on why exercise helps with inflammation

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Post by Broken_Hippo » Sun, Jul 16, 2023, 11:25 PM UTC

zer8k wrote: post #55

Broken_Hippo wrote: post #32

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... in a post-scarcity society... So, a world that doesn't exist?

The west is post scarcity. Obesity is an epidemic, diabetes in children is at a record never before seen, and people spend more time sitting still than moving.

That doesn't describe post-scarcity.

People don't even always have clean water, enough healthy food, access to medical care, housing, and so on.

And you realistically cannot have scarcity in the "non-west" and then pretend you are post-scarcity in "the west". It just doesn't work like that. That's just "post-scarcity for folks and countries not being exploited", if it were true at all.

Re: New study gives clues on why exercise helps with inflammation

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Post by winrid » Mon, Jul 17, 2023, 6:01 PM UTC

moltar wrote: post #60

winrid wrote: post #59

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You might be on to something. Bagels don't seem to do it but burger buns, with fructose, do. Worth further experimentation. I doubt I have gout, though, lol. I am a little over 6' and weight 73kg? I always associated gout with diabetes.

Gout is definitely not limited to diabetes. I’m not overweight, no history of diabetes in the family, and I eat very clean otherwise. It’s more related to your ability to metabolize fructose which is a rabbit hole of a topic of itself. But a good science based overview is on YouTube. Check Sugar the Bitter Truth video.

Ah, yeah it's not gout. I also avoid sugar and eat pretty healthy 90% of the time. I limit my fun food intake to one day a week :P

The pain is more like the usual soreness from the injury, just worse.