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The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]
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Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]
#62Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]
#63I think we really need microtransactions. Pay $0.05 to read this article? Sure. Whoever figures out the infrastructure for that (seems like it would be right up Stripe’s alley) is going to make trillions.
The reason why ads work is consumers do not want to spend money now that they are conditioned to get stuff on the internet for free. Every time an article on here is posted the first comment is a link to archive.is.
I agree this would be a better model, but I don’t think it will ever happen. Maybe the Web3 stuff will catch on and this will become sustainable.
Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]
#64I'm not going to watch this entire video. I just want to ask, what the fuck is going on with those disgusting body horror ads we see all over the internet? Close ups of pimples and wounds and bizzare diagrams of human anatomy that all appear designed specifically to draw the eye (at any cost) but personally just repulse me. There's a whole cross section of websites I won't visit, including some major news sites, beca…
Worse are the body shaming ad/games I have done a reasonable job at fooling Instagram to the extent where they think I'm a woman and I see horrifying ads all the time like the following: https://twitter.com/AndrewKemendo/status/1676597672667381773 I looked further and the key thing that viewers are doing (based on 600k app store reviews which seem to be mostly real) is trying to "give the girl a chance for once" "hel…
It's the allistic version of nerd-sniping.
Do something intentionally wrong to goad a smart alec into trying to do it right.
Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]
#65Good. I don't have a problem with subscriptions that provide content. That said, currently ad supported content stuffed behind a pay wall which still has ads, or even things like Hulu which have "ad free" yet still show ads, there is an imbalance toward shoving ads down peoples throats. The sooner that goes away, the better.
Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]
#66His two examples are Twitter and Reddit whose ad revenue is dying because those two companies have made huge blunders. Elon seems to almost actively be killing Twitter (which the poster even states). Reddit screwed Apollo and then many of the most popular subreddits protested and did things like show porn on otherwise usually SFW content to prevent Reddit from showing ads and thus killing their profits. Those are big…
> His two examples are Twitter and Reddit whose ad revenue is dying because those two companies have made huge blunders. Elon seems to almost actively be killing Twitter
I disagree. Elon doesn't care about ad revenue. He stated multiple times that the goal is to make Twitter a superapp.
Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
The YouTube channel Second Thought recently put out a video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gSzzuY1Yw0 ) whose thesis was that even being cheaper than fossil fuels is not / will not be enough for green energy to win, because under capitalism a cheap thing that also has low profit margin will not attract investment compared to a bit more expensive thing which can be exploited for more profit. I wonder if a similar…
Your coworker is wise. Economic theory holds that in a truly efficient market, profits approach 0.
Probably I had already heard it in a longer version but wow, summing it up like that really hits home.
Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]
#68His two examples are Twitter and Reddit whose ad revenue is dying because those two companies have made huge blunders. Elon seems to almost actively be killing Twitter (which the poster even states). Reddit screwed Apollo and then many of the most popular subreddits protested and did things like show porn on otherwise usually SFW content to prevent Reddit from showing ads and thus killing their profits. Those are big…
> His two examples are Twitter and Reddit whose ad revenue is dying because those two companies have made huge blunders. Elon seems to almost actively be killing Twitter I disagree. Elon doesn't care about ad revenue. He stated multiple times that the goal is to make Twitter a superapp.
Haha, what is a superapp?
Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
> His two examples are Twitter and Reddit whose ad revenue is dying because those two companies have made huge blunders. Elon seems to almost actively be killing Twitter I disagree. Elon doesn't care about ad revenue. He stated multiple times that the goal is to make Twitter a superapp.
Haha, what is a superapp?
Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]
#70I work in the ad industry. I have some expertise both on witnessing the alleged decline and counter-acting it. Before anyone asks about my moral compass I do not like ads, I never have, but they're an inevitability. The problems big ad tech face are unique and very hard especially w.r.t. to data.
Anyway, ads are not dying. By and large ad quality is getting better. There are several companies that exist now to pre-screen ads for major websites (youtube being one of them) that specialize specifically in making sure not only the ads are relevant but also safe. You may see niche (gross) ads on places like 4chan. But on any major site you can be sure the ads have gone through several reviews not only for quality, but accuracy, and relevancy. As for the counter-acting part several companies specialize in guerilla advertising and this business is BOOMING. The author probably has no idea they are constantly being advertised on nearly every popular youtube video. There are so many ways we can slip ads in to someone's feed that you will not avoid it no matter what you do.
What bothers me is the author of this video seems to think the internet can exist without ads. In it's current form it cannot. Every free service you use, every video you watch, etc would have to be paid in full otherwise. This is the definition of an information economy. The video goes on to whine and cry about how many ads are being shown on youtube, or how reddit torpedo'd stuff in the name of ads. The ONLY ALTERNATIVE is a paid solution. The author seems to be channeling the levels of undeserved hubris only Stallman can achieve. This is the fundamental problem of open source software only marginally reframed. A bunch of ivory tower morons talking about how software should be free but unwilling to help/donate/code to make it happen. Users of ad-powered websites are legitimately no different.
So you have a fork in the road. Watch a couple ads occasionally to help fund the website you're leeching from or pay for the service. The video frustrates me especially because the industry itself is doing a lot of very hard work to drive relevant content to users. For example, you won't see an ad for clorox bleach on a sysop video.
Nothing is getting worse. You are watching a system built on advertising revenue to provide a "free" experience degrading because the revenue is getting smaller. If you like the service turn your ad blocker off. If you cannot do that, you legitimately have no place to complain. You do not have to use these services. In the case of Youtube you can pay for the ad-free experience.
I guess what I'm saying is: if you're a content leech watch a couple ads. If you're an OSS leech, consider donating :).