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‘Nearshoring’ Push Is Fueling Tech Job Demand in Latin America

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Re: ‘Nearshoring’ Push Is Fueling Tech Job Demand in Latin America

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Post by throwaway1777 »

ldec wrote: post #12

Hi, Lachlan de Crespigny co-founder of Revelo here (my cofounder is quoted in the article). This is absolutely a trend and I really believe it is a massive benefit for the US and for Latin America - more innovation in the US and more good quality jobs in Latam. Once your team is remote, as long as the developers are technically strong, speak English, and work in your timezone, why do you care at all where the person…

I care where my coworkers are based, but not for business reasons as much other than preferring in person work for some tasks.

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Post by Jcampuzano2 »

foobarian wrote: post #36
huevosabio wrote: post #33

I can speak for Mexico. We have so much going for it. 1. A robust manufacturing economy (unlike the rest of LATAM) right on the border with the #1 consumer. 2. A culture that is easy to digest for Americans and Europeans alike. 3. People that are welcoming of foreigners, and used to them thanks to decades of tourism. 4. A relatively educated and increasingly educated population. 5. A very comprehensive free trade agr…

What is the situation with cartels? I like the idea of Mexico but tbf I'm terrified of even visiting for tourism because of the shooting/kidnapping stories. For example for the '24 eclipse I'm just sticking to Texas

Anecdotal, but I am someone who lived in Mexico as a non-citizen on a resident visa for a year or so. I have never had problems with cartels/shootings or anything of the like. But obviously this will highly depend on what activities you partake in, and where you end up visiting.

The worst I have had happen is a case of pickpocketing that happened to my GF. I would obviously not recommend going to areas that are known for issues. I also recommend doing the majority of traveling to other cities via airplane if you are worried about this sort of thing. I did take plenty of busses myself but I know some people are very paranoid/worried of what can happen.

Re: ‘Nearshoring’ Push Is Fueling Tech Job Demand in Latin America

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Post by denimnerd42 »

Daishiman wrote: post #43
bluedino wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can have the same with that income in the USA assuming you don't live in Seattle or SF. You can live in Indiana or Texas. Brazil doesn't exactly have a great reputation.

If you come from a decent Latam metropolis like Buenos Aires or Santiago and make use of the urban facilities (ie you like going out, being close to universities and airports and various activities), anything beyond top-tier US cities is a real step down in quality of life.

dfw has world class restaurants and one of the best airports. and a highly diverse housing stock. you can get a new house at 400k or you can live in a mansion or high rise condo or anywhere in between. recreation is the major downside and the heat but that’s what the airports are for. world class private and public schools, major universities, etc

you can also get a mortgage. good luck in buenos aires!

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Post by jghn »

peteradio wrote: post #28
ethbr0 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

100%! I've worked with a ton of great Indian folks, but the "no" cultural translation is hard . Just yesterday I was working through an issue, came up with a clear plan that critically involved notifying the customer before making any changes, after they'd been burned by previous uncommunicated changes. Was in the middle of a busy day, so I didn't think and quickly asked if there were any problems or everyone was onb…

I don't understand what your alternative was? How was this your fault?

If you're aware of the situation you can change the questions you ask and how you probe in to account for the difference in "no" in order to get to the truth.

I believe they're saying that due to them being busy they didn't think about it at the time even though they should've known better.

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Post by emodendroket »

mikeryan wrote: post #34
local_crmdgeon wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. The skill isn't even an issue - you just hire them for the right roles. Having the same definition of "no" as Americans is huge. Indians have a really tough time saying something isn't going well, or that we shouldn't do a project, for cultural reasons. That's great! Culture is great. For work though, something closer to the culture of the outsourcer makes it a lot easier to deal with. Flights are also so muc…

Mexico is going to need to change their labor laws if they want a big piece of this pie. I’ve had a nearshore team in Mexico for four years the people are great for all the reasons mentioned. The gap, however is costs. We’re used to “at-will” employment in the states are used to a “Hire slow, fire fast” paradigm. In MX the cost to fire a full time employee is 3 months severance (regardless of seniority) plus 20 days…

Is that a loophole? That's what I would expect most people to want to do anyway.

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Post by edgyquant »

washywashy wrote: post #47
foobarian wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the situation with cartels? I like the idea of Mexico but tbf I'm terrified of even visiting for tourism because of the shooting/kidnapping stories. For example for the '24 eclipse I'm just sticking to Texas

Lots of shark attacks too

No, and not even close to the same thing.

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Post by josu »

foobarian wrote: post #36
huevosabio wrote: post #33

I can speak for Mexico. We have so much going for it. 1. A robust manufacturing economy (unlike the rest of LATAM) right on the border with the #1 consumer. 2. A culture that is easy to digest for Americans and Europeans alike. 3. People that are welcoming of foreigners, and used to them thanks to decades of tourism. 4. A relatively educated and increasingly educated population. 5. A very comprehensive free trade agr…

What is the situation with cartels? I like the idea of Mexico but tbf I'm terrified of even visiting for tourism because of the shooting/kidnapping stories. For example for the '24 eclipse I'm just sticking to Texas

There are 32 US cities, including Huston TX, with a higher homicide rate than Mexico City. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_homicide_rat...

Foreigners getting kidnapped is very uncommon. It happens from time to time, although it makes it to the news and they do try to find the kidnappers.

School shootings are extremely rare.

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Post by ye-olde-sysrq »

holoduke wrote: post #53
mikeryan wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mexico is going to need to change their labor laws if they want a big piece of this pie. I’ve had a nearshore team in Mexico for four years the people are great for all the reasons mentioned. The gap, however is costs. We’re used to “at-will” employment in the states are used to a “Hire slow, fire fast” paradigm. In MX the cost to fire a full time employee is 3 months severance (regardless of seniority) plus 20 days…

Hope for Mexico they dont follow the unhumane worker rights of the states. Basically europe has the same principles as in Mexico and people in Europe have good lifes.

Yeah, TIL Mexico is so pro-Labor.

It's disgusting to see "we have to pay 6 months severance to chuck out someone who spent half a decade of their lives with us!" said unironically, even on this board.

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Post by causi »

snapcaster wrote: post #48
ethbr0 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

100%! I've worked with a ton of great Indian folks, but the "no" cultural translation is hard . Just yesterday I was working through an issue, came up with a clear plan that critically involved notifying the customer before making any changes, after they'd been burned by previous uncommunicated changes. Was in the middle of a busy day, so I didn't think and quickly asked if there were any problems or everyone was onb…

I don't really get this anecdote, this seems less like someone having a different definition of "no" and more like just ignoring you (which happens all the time, it's hard to listen to everything in a workplace slack)

I'm surprised Slack doesn't have a functionality where you can tag something like a sentence or a phrase as "essential" and make everybody else tap a button acknowledging that they've read and understood it. Maybe also with a timer that stops you from tapping it before you can read it.
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