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Aubrey Plaza Is the Unfortunate New Face of the Milk Wars

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Re: Aubrey Plaza Is the Unfortunate New Face of the Milk Wars

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Post by LeoNatan25 »

zuminator wrote: post #59

Just going by the numbers cited in the article, milk is almost 6 times as popular in the US as milk alternatives. Let's round "almost 6" down to 5. That would mean milk has 5/6 of the milk-like market. It further goes on to claim that milk consumption is down by 20% among Gen-Z compared to the average. 20% less is 80% or 4/5. So milk's popularity with Gen-Z is 4/5 of 5/6 which equals 2/3. In other words, milk is stil…

“Big Milk” and “Big Dairy” should be enough to tell you everything you need to know about the blogger that wrote this “article”.

Re: Aubrey Plaza Is the Unfortunate New Face of the Milk Wars

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Post by Semaphor »

bambax wrote: post #32
thinkingemote wrote: post #22

As a drink a pint of milk is cheaper than bottled water.

Drinking raw milk seems to be a very American thing? I eat cheese and yogourts, but I have never drank raw milk in a glass, and don't think I have ever seen anyone else do it in real life. It looks really bizarre (and frankly, kind of gross).

It was common enough in Germany (as sibling comment says, not raw milk, which I only ever had once at a farm) when I grew up.

Re: Aubrey Plaza Is the Unfortunate New Face of the Milk Wars

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Post by bambax »

Tsiklon wrote: post #42
bambax wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Drinking raw milk seems to be a very American thing? I eat cheese and yogourts, but I have never drank raw milk in a glass, and don't think I have ever seen anyone else do it in real life. It looks really bizarre (and frankly, kind of gross).

Raw milk is frequently used to describe non-pasturised milk - this of course shouldn’t be drunk unless you know exactly where it’s from. A glass of milk isn’t so strange here in the U.K. I occasionally see people drinking from pint cartons, and occasionally do so myself when I’m walking to work. But of course the strangeness is likely to depend on demographics of lactose tolerance where you are. Here lactose intolera…

Ah sorry, I didn't mean non-pasteurized, just meant "liquid milk with nothing in it" (as opposed to, say, a milkshake).

I'm French and it seems very uncommon here, but not related to lactose intolerance since most people eat cheese. It's probably a cultural thing.

Maybe it has something to do with temperature and ancient methods of conservation? Milk goes bad very fast, whereas some cheese can be kept for a very long time.

Re: Aubrey Plaza Is the Unfortunate New Face of the Milk Wars

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Post by tecleandor »

silisili wrote: post #53
crummy wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wikipedia says 'In English, the word "milk" has been used to refer to "milk-like plant juices" since 1200 CE' so I think that boat sailed a long time ago.

I'm not against that definition, but neither soybeans nor almonds produce any 'milk-like plant juices.'

Soybean, almond, rice, tiger nut... milks are basically the product and some extra water, and the result is milk-like.

Re: Aubrey Plaza Is the Unfortunate New Face of the Milk Wars

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Post by knorker »

echelon wrote: post #29
anigbrowl wrote: post #8

“Aubrey, no!” screamed one TikToker, narrating the Wood Milk campaign video. “Why on earth are you getting in bed with ‘Got Milk?’ Nobody likes milk—like, literally nobody.” Oh the bovinity There's some OK analysis further in, though I think they overlook the impact of demographic changes, lactose intolerance, and some other factors. The main problem for US milk providers is that most milk sold in the US is not very…

Cow milk is a battleground topic for global warming and climate change. Gen Z has been encouraged to ditch milk to cut back on industrial cattle farming and methane emissions. They're also told that farming cattle is inhumane. The milk alternatives (almond, etc.) have been framing it this way commercially, but there is also a lot of grassroots campaigning.

Pushing anything almond "for the environment" seems like it's a slap in the face of California, to me.

Re: Aubrey Plaza Is the Unfortunate New Face of the Milk Wars

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Post by exitb »

dTal wrote: post #33
Freedom2 wrote: post #21

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> It’s not going to be good for you How about water ads? Can you specifically address how water isn't good for us, leaving aside absurd arguments such as "drink too much, and you'll drown!"

I've never seen an ad for fresh running water from the tap. Bottled water on the other hand, in addition to being overpriced, often contains microplastics.

Just pointing out that these do exist in some [1] places. But yeah, generally you're right.

[1] https://en.prostozkranu.krakow.pl

Re: Aubrey Plaza Is the Unfortunate New Face of the Milk Wars

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Post by malermeister »

marcinzm wrote: post #57
malermeister wrote: post #50

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Because it created an entire culture around it, our people's history. Parmigiano Reggiano was loved by Boccaccio already. Homer's Odyssey talks of what we would call Feta today. Egyptian murals detail cheesemaking. Today, too, dairy is an important aspect of many cultures. > Sandra Ott’s fascinating ethnography of Basque shepherds (Ott 1981) reveals much about the central role cheese can have in everyday life. In the…

>Dairy products aren't just food. They're millenia old culture and identity. So people aren't allowed to change their preferences or way of life if it's deemed "cultural"?

Of course they are, nobody said anything suggesting otherwise.

However, saying "cow milk is for baby cows" is a silly reductive take that ignores pretty much the entirety of human history and the heritage we've built around it.

Oat grains are for baby oat plants! - See how silly that sounds?

Re: Aubrey Plaza Is the Unfortunate New Face of the Milk Wars

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Post by LeoNatan25 »

Tsiklon wrote: post #42
bambax wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Drinking raw milk seems to be a very American thing? I eat cheese and yogourts, but I have never drank raw milk in a glass, and don't think I have ever seen anyone else do it in real life. It looks really bizarre (and frankly, kind of gross).

Raw milk is frequently used to describe non-pasturised milk - this of course shouldn’t be drunk unless you know exactly where it’s from. A glass of milk isn’t so strange here in the U.K. I occasionally see people drinking from pint cartons, and occasionally do so myself when I’m walking to work. But of course the strangeness is likely to depend on demographics of lactose tolerance where you are. Here lactose intolera…

Raw milk should almost never be drunk in today’s reality, regardless if you know where it came from. There is enough asymptomatic bacteria in cows that is really bad for you. Somehow raw milk became a religion in the US, but it’s really really unhealthy.

Re: Aubrey Plaza Is the Unfortunate New Face of the Milk Wars

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Post by pcthrowaway »

silisili wrote: post #53
crummy wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wikipedia says 'In English, the word "milk" has been used to refer to "milk-like plant juices" since 1200 CE' so I think that boat sailed a long time ago.

I'm not against that definition, but neither soybeans nor almonds produce any 'milk-like plant juices.'

... because they produce milk?

Re: Aubrey Plaza Is the Unfortunate New Face of the Milk Wars

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Post by knorker »

> Nobody likes milk—like, literally nobody.

If that were true then you wouldn't need to scream it so hard. If people didn't like it, it wouldn't sell, and they'd stop making it.

But it's great! I love milk. Cold. Hot. As-is. In pancakes. Etc.

Alt Milks? Do I want to drink a bag of sugar with some liquid you managed to squeeze out of a root, after much processing and who knows what chemicals? No. No I do not.

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